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> “My diabetes went into remission basically immediately, almost that same day. And I’ve been off insulin for about 8 months now,” That's not because of the su
by zerohp 8y ago
> “My diabetes went into remission basically immediately, almost that same day. And I’ve been off insulin for about 8 months now,”
That's not because of the surgery. It's because he was forced into an extended fast before (and after) the surgery. Type 2 diabetes reverses almost immediately with fasting.
I have no personal involvement with Dr. Jason Fung's clinic in Canada, but he claims to reverse type 2 diabetes in virtually every case. https://idmprogram.com/ https://idmprogram.com/
- BadassFractal 8y agoAs someone who has recently gotten into fasting for health and aesthetic reasons, I wonder about the best place to learn more about it in depth. It seems like it could be a very powerful asset in one's health toolbox, but I also don't want to accidentally screw myself up by doing it the wrong way. Please advise.
- toomuchtodo 8y agohttps://www.reddit.com/r/intermittentfasting/ https://www.reddit.com/r/intermittentfasting/
- BadassFractal 8y agoSorry, I should have been more specific. That's specifically intermittent fasting, I've done that for a year, it was ok and didn't do much for me. I'm mostly interesting in longer water fasts, anywhere between 1 and 7 days.
- dflock 8y agohttps://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/ https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/
- aviv 8y agoExactly. Fasting cures diabetes as well as a host of many other "incurable" "diseases". But there is no money in fasting, so our messed up world continues to reject it as a valid solution.
- Dirlewanger 8y agoSad that people are already downvoting you, and sad that more people don't know about other options than medication/surgery. Here's a link to Dr. Fung's article specifically on reversing type 2 diabetes (https://idmprogram.com/reverse-type-2-diabetes-the-quick-start-guide/ https://idmprogram.com/reverse-type-2-diabetes-the-quick-sta...). Keep downvoting me too, Big Pharma.
- throwaway5752 8y agoPeople are downvoting the parent to your comment because of the "a host of many other "incurable" "diseases" part. It's unsubstantiated and unspecific, and it jumps right to conspiracy theory. People are downvoting you because you are violating at least 3 site guidelines (commenting about voting, alleging astroturfing/shillage, and being civil). Particularly when you could have made a constructive argument and tried to elaborate what conditions it cured, what studies were behind it (maybe summarizing Dr. Fung's research), or other more valuable contributions.
- JakeTyo 8y agoThese are probably the same people who think CNN is "fake news".
- aviv 8y agoBig Pharma and other such entities have presence in every large online community, HN and Reddit included.
- Someone1234 8y agoLet's not go too far. The science on fasting as a diabetes treatment seems legitimate (even if early/still evolving), but claiming it cures other "incurable diseases" seems unsupported (particularly if you don't specify WHAT diseases). Weight loss in general helps combat some other illnesses like high blood pressure, and while fasting might be a means to that end (i.e. weight loss) I've not read studies that looked at if fasting is more beneficial than other forms of weight loss. Heck, even the fasting diabetes thing is very young science, I wouldn't call even that conclusive yet.
- kazinator 8y ago> reverses almost immediately with fasting. And this effect lasts for eight months?
- jonknee 8y agoWell it does if you are physically unable to keep eating like you were before the fast because someone stapled your stomach shut...
- kazinator 8y agoBut then the question is whether the perisurgical fasting had been a necessary impetus.
- tastythrowaway 8y agoType II Diabetes has insulin resistance as an underpinning. This resistance can be reversed with fasting. Eating healthy is easier once fasting has been reversed, and it is necessary to sustain the results.
- shadykiller 8y agoSimilar is true for a Ketogenic diet. Virta Health(https://www.virtahealth.com/ https://www.virtahealth.com/) founded by Sami Inkinen(Trulia) and some well known doctors in the field, is using Ketogenic diet approach for Diabtetes type 2 treatment. They've also published results from their clinical trials: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs13300-018-0373-9 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs13300-018-0373-... http://diabetes.jmir.org/2017/1/e5/ http://diabetes.jmir.org/2017/1/e5/