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Microsoft employees pissed over company's connection to ICE

6 points by deegles 8y ago

core-questions 8y ago
> But hey: it isn't January anymore and Microsoft in June, 2018 is looking a little bit like IBM back in the 1930s. This is obscenely hyperbolic, cheapens the Holocaust, and is just plain wrong. ICE has a legal mandate, well-established, to perform enforcement of the normal and just laws of the nation, focused on immigration law. They're not jack-booted thugs rounding citizens up for gas chambers, they're police officers rounding up criminals. Yes, you're a criminal if you're in the country illegally. > Under the Trump Administration's direction, ICE and other Homeland Security entities have been busy breaking up families, emotionally scarring thousands of innocent kids, and driving their anguished caretakers into cages, or worse, to suicide. The policies of breaking up families aren't new. We don't put children in jail cells! Using the word "cages" is emotionally manipulative - they're jail cells, which is where we put people that break the law. Entering the country illegally is breaking the law, plain and simple. > That Microsoft's Azure cloud computing services are helping such villainy along, in any capacity, might be good in the short-term, for the company's bottom line, but the optics are shit. Supplying IT services to the federal government for the enforcement of laws is not villainy. Writing articles that intend to punish a company for taking a totally reasonable business decision is more villainous, especially if you're going to compare it to supporting Nazi Germany. Yikes.
- deegles 8y ago
  > legal mandate, well-established, to perform enforcement of the normal and just laws of the nation There is no law on the books justifying separation.[0] > Using the word "cages" is emotionally manipulative Border Patrol themselves say it's "not inaccurate" to call them cages. [1] > they're jail cells Oh, everything is ok then. [0] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/justify-separating-kids-parents-border-tolerance-bannon/story?id=55946718 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/justify-separating-kids-pare... [1] https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1008695502379077637 https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/100869550237907763...
  - core-questions 8y ago
    > There is no law on the books justifying separation. So are you saying you want children to be places into jail cells? > Border Patrol themselves say it's "not inaccurate" to call them cages. There's bars, yep. Did you think it was going to be a Holiday Inn that they put these people up in? > Oh, everything is ok then. No, the situation is terrible, and costs taxpayers millions. They should all just be sent back immediately upon capture. The whole thing is a waste of time and money.

6 points by deegles 8y ago

> But hey: it isn't January anymore and Microsoft in June, 2018 is looking a little bit like IBM back in the 1930s. This is obscenely hyperbolic, cheapens the Holocaust, and is just plain wrong. ICE has a legal mandate, well-established, to perform enforcement of the normal and just laws of the nation, focused on immigration law. They're not jack-booted thugs rounding citizens up for gas chambers, they're police officers rounding up criminals. Yes, you're a criminal if you're in the country illegally. > Under the Trump Administration's direction, ICE and other Homeland Security entities have been busy breaking up families, emotionally scarring thousands of innocent kids, and driving their anguished caretakers into cages, or worse, to suicide. The policies of breaking up families aren't new. We don't put children in jail cells! Using the word "cages" is emotionally manipulative - they're jail cells, which is where we put people that break the law. Entering the country illegally is breaking the law, plain and simple. > That Microsoft's Azure cloud computing services are helping such villainy along, in any capacity, might be good in the short-term, for the company's bottom line, but the optics are shit. Supplying IT services to the federal government for the enforcement of laws is not villainy. Writing articles that intend to punish a company for taking a totally reasonable business decision is more villainous, especially if you're going to compare it to supporting Nazi Germany. Yikes.

deegles 8y ago
> legal mandate, well-established, to perform enforcement of the normal and just laws of the nation There is no law on the books justifying separation.[0] > Using the word "cages" is emotionally manipulative Border Patrol themselves say it's "not inaccurate" to call them cages. [1] > they're jail cells Oh, everything is ok then. [0] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/justify-separating-kids-parents-border-tolerance-bannon/story?id=55946718 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/justify-separating-kids-pare... [1] https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1008695502379077637 https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/100869550237907763...
- core-questions 8y ago
  > There is no law on the books justifying separation. So are you saying you want children to be places into jail cells? > Border Patrol themselves say it's "not inaccurate" to call them cages. There's bars, yep. Did you think it was going to be a Holiday Inn that they put these people up in? > Oh, everything is ok then. No, the situation is terrible, and costs taxpayers millions. They should all just be sent back immediately upon capture. The whole thing is a waste of time and money.