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Textmate is still the best Mac native text editor for programming. It’s fast, stable, and gets out of your way. The newer CotEditor is a nice swift based implem

Textmate is still the best Mac native text editor for programming. It’s fast, stable, and gets out of your way. The newer CotEditor is a nice swift based implementation, but still lacks the extensibility that TM has. Long live Textmate!! PS Textmate 3 should be subscription based to support the next generation of Mac text editor!

sonaltr 8y ago
As someone who moved from Linux and is moving between VS Code and Sublime - how is Textmate better?
- danielvf 8y ago
  If you are used to those two, and happy with them, you probably don't have any reason to switch. As for me, I've been using TextMate since it's first release more than a decade ago, and I'm simply used to it. I'm more productive in TextMate since I know where everything is without thinking about it.
- jakobegger 8y ago
  Compared to VS Code: Speed. Textmate opens files instantly, VS Code takes forever to open a new window. Compared to Sublime: Better Find interface. I really hate the sublime multi-file search result list, it seems like a hack, not a real interface... I just don't get why they would do it like that.
  - blatyo 8y ago
    One thing that is nice about the way sublime does it is that you can search the search results. Since it shows the found search items contextualized, it can be useful to search the contextualized parts.
    - luikore 8y ago
      You can copy the search results in TextMate, then paste and continue your second search.
  - eropple 8y ago
    > Compared to VS Code: Speed. Textmate opens files instantly, VS Code takes forever to open a new window. I just timed it. Opening a new window on the PC I'm using right now takes between 70 and 72 frames, or between 1.16 and 1.25 seconds. On the rare occasion that I do it. I understand that everyone is a leet uberhacker who is thrown off their flow by a butterfly farting on the breeze, but this is princess-and-the-pea stuff.
- ubermonkey 8y ago
  Sublime is kind of an ideological child of TextMate, so it's not, really. Lots of folks switched to Sublime when TM development stalled out some time ago. It's a very similar experience, and is similarly powerful.
- luikore 8y ago
  Some key advantages: 1. Fast and responsive 2. If you write a plugin, you know TextMate is Unix (forked child process, communicate through shared fd, you invoke a command named dialog2 to let TextMate popup any dialogs or completion menu...). You can add editor commands in any language -- you can even make TextMate display complex UI dialog with bash. 3. File browser is nearly a finder (drag and drop like finder, and most finder shortcuts work) 4. Search (there are some hidden shortcuts, but when you master it you feel very fluent) There are weakness too: TextMate is losing the market, many bundle developers switched to other editors. You can't find many new bundles nowadays. It still doesn't support vim-like keyboard operation... etc
ubermonkey 8y ago
Just Say No to subscription software. The rise of this phenomenon is doing more than almost any other event to drive me to FOSS options.
- satysin 8y ago
  JetBrains subscription model isn't too bad. If you buy month-to-month it is like any other sub model (access dies at the end of the month/subscription period) but if you buy annually you get a perpetual license for that version so it is kind of like just buying a version outright. Of course the subscription model gives JetBrains more incentive to keep revving the version number so if you want to stay up to date with the latest and great you have to keep "buying" it every year but C'est la vie. More info for those interested https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-perpetual-fallback-license- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What...
  - ubermonkey 8y ago
    I'm unconvinced. "Not too bad" is still "bad."

sonaltr 8y ago

As someone who moved from Linux and is moving between VS Code and Sublime - how is Textmate better?

danielvf 8y ago
If you are used to those two, and happy with them, you probably don't have any reason to switch. As for me, I've been using TextMate since it's first release more than a decade ago, and I'm simply used to it. I'm more productive in TextMate since I know where everything is without thinking about it.
jakobegger 8y ago
Compared to VS Code: Speed. Textmate opens files instantly, VS Code takes forever to open a new window. Compared to Sublime: Better Find interface. I really hate the sublime multi-file search result list, it seems like a hack, not a real interface... I just don't get why they would do it like that.
- blatyo 8y ago
  One thing that is nice about the way sublime does it is that you can search the search results. Since it shows the found search items contextualized, it can be useful to search the contextualized parts.
  - luikore 8y ago
    You can copy the search results in TextMate, then paste and continue your second search.
- eropple 8y ago
  > Compared to VS Code: Speed. Textmate opens files instantly, VS Code takes forever to open a new window. I just timed it. Opening a new window on the PC I'm using right now takes between 70 and 72 frames, or between 1.16 and 1.25 seconds. On the rare occasion that I do it. I understand that everyone is a leet uberhacker who is thrown off their flow by a butterfly farting on the breeze, but this is princess-and-the-pea stuff.
ubermonkey 8y ago
Sublime is kind of an ideological child of TextMate, so it's not, really. Lots of folks switched to Sublime when TM development stalled out some time ago. It's a very similar experience, and is similarly powerful.
luikore 8y ago
Some key advantages: 1. Fast and responsive 2. If you write a plugin, you know TextMate is Unix (forked child process, communicate through shared fd, you invoke a command named dialog2 to let TextMate popup any dialogs or completion menu...). You can add editor commands in any language -- you can even make TextMate display complex UI dialog with bash. 3. File browser is nearly a finder (drag and drop like finder, and most finder shortcuts work) 4. Search (there are some hidden shortcuts, but when you master it you feel very fluent) There are weakness too: TextMate is losing the market, many bundle developers switched to other editors. You can't find many new bundles nowadays. It still doesn't support vim-like keyboard operation... etc

ubermonkey 8y ago

Just Say No to subscription software. The rise of this phenomenon is doing more than almost any other event to drive me to FOSS options.

satysin 8y ago
JetBrains subscription model isn't too bad. If you buy month-to-month it is like any other sub model (access dies at the end of the month/subscription period) but if you buy annually you get a perpetual license for that version so it is kind of like just buying a version outright. Of course the subscription model gives JetBrains more incentive to keep revving the version number so if you want to stay up to date with the latest and great you have to keep "buying" it every year but C'est la vie. More info for those interested https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-perpetual-fallback-license- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What...
- ubermonkey 8y ago
  I'm unconvinced. "Not too bad" is still "bad."