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What's wrong with USB-C? It's seen a pretty wide-spread uptake over the last couple years, and you're hard pressed to find a new laptop from any manufacturer t

by subway 8y ago

What's wrong with USB-C? It's seen a pretty wide-spread uptake over the last couple years, and you're hard pressed to find a new laptop from any manufacturer that doesn't use it for charging.

grk 8y ago
https://marco.org/2017/10/14/impossible-dream-of-usb-c https://marco.org/2017/10/14/impossible-dream-of-usb-c
- yebyen 8y ago
  This sounds like an absolutely horrifying state of affairs. I did not know what a bullet I dodged by opting for the non-touchbar 2015-Mac that still has those regular old USB-A and HDMI/Mini-DP ports. > Many Android phones support Qualcomm’s Quick Charge over USB-C, which is different — usually — from the official, better, newer USB-C Power Delivery (PD) standard. Apple products, some Android phones, and the Nintendo Switch use USB-C PD. Quick Charge devices don’t get any benefit — usually — from PD chargers, and vice versa. ... and this is just a small sample.
- MistahKoala 8y ago
  I returned to Macintosh in 2015 after a 15-year hiatus, buying a late 2013 MBP. Having seen the absolute abortion of a device in the most recent MBP line-up and the glaringly obvious neglect of the platform, I feel like I've swapped one shitty experience (Windows 8 onwards) for another - except on a platform that's twice the cost and far less flexible when it comes to future options. It won't happen, but in an ideal world, Apple would spin-off a Mac business whose only use to them appears to be as a means for them to burnish their superficial 'creative' brand credentials and as a dev platform for iOS.
michrassena 8y ago
It's beginning to look like consolidating a variety of capabilities into one connector was a bad idea. There's no way to differentiate what features are supported on any given USB-C port. USB A was different in that the features were only on the device being attached. USB 1-3 was a bus only. Though even then, there were rarely markings to distinguish between USB 1 and 2 (when that distinction was relevant). And there is no way to know if a given USB hub will provide enough power to your device until you plug it in. At the root, it seems like Thunderbolt, or Thunderbolt over the USB-C port is more the issue. I've even run into this same problem with Thunderbolt ports on PCs vs. Macs. On a Surface Pro, Thunderbolt is video only, for Ethernet you have to use a USB-attached device. On a Mac, Thunderbolt does both.

by subway 8y ago

What's wrong with USB-C? It's seen a pretty wide-spread uptake over the last couple years, and you're hard pressed to find a new laptop from any manufacturer that doesn't use it for charging.

grk 8y ago

https://marco.org/2017/10/14/impossible-dream-of-usb-c https://marco.org/2017/10/14/impossible-dream-of-usb-c

yebyen 8y ago
This sounds like an absolutely horrifying state of affairs. I did not know what a bullet I dodged by opting for the non-touchbar 2015-Mac that still has those regular old USB-A and HDMI/Mini-DP ports. > Many Android phones support Qualcomm’s Quick Charge over USB-C, which is different — usually — from the official, better, newer USB-C Power Delivery (PD) standard. Apple products, some Android phones, and the Nintendo Switch use USB-C PD. Quick Charge devices don’t get any benefit — usually — from PD chargers, and vice versa. ... and this is just a small sample.
MistahKoala 8y ago
I returned to Macintosh in 2015 after a 15-year hiatus, buying a late 2013 MBP. Having seen the absolute abortion of a device in the most recent MBP line-up and the glaringly obvious neglect of the platform, I feel like I've swapped one shitty experience (Windows 8 onwards) for another - except on a platform that's twice the cost and far less flexible when it comes to future options. It won't happen, but in an ideal world, Apple would spin-off a Mac business whose only use to them appears to be as a means for them to burnish their superficial 'creative' brand credentials and as a dev platform for iOS.

michrassena 8y ago

It's beginning to look like consolidating a variety of capabilities into one connector was a bad idea. There's no way to differentiate what features are supported on any given USB-C port. USB A was different in that the features were only on the device being attached. USB 1-3 was a bus only. Though even then, there were rarely markings to distinguish between USB 1 and 2 (when that distinction was relevant). And there is no way to know if a given USB hub will provide enough power to your device until you plug it in. At the root, it seems like Thunderbolt, or Thunderbolt over the USB-C port is more the issue. I've even run into this same problem with Thunderbolt ports on PCs vs. Macs. On a Surface Pro, Thunderbolt is video only, for Ethernet you have to use a USB-attached device. On a Mac, Thunderbolt does both.