I'm not arguing against this. There are winners: local producers, at least in the short term. There are losers: to importers and consumers. What I'm arguing is

I'm not arguing against this. There are winners: local producers, at least in the short term. There are losers: to importers and consumers. What I'm arguing is that there are always winners and losers to trade barriers. Tariffs make it easy to understand and quantify this, because they are explicit and straightforward. They're flexible and leave less legacy or mess. It's always clear what they are trying to achieve, and how. This is not an argument for trade barriers, it's an argument for how trade barriers should be implemented if they are implemented.