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That is so true. We were building for Telegram before Slack and was very disappointed business-wise about it. Now we're fully focused on Slack and it helps us

That is so true. We were building for Telegram before Slack and was very disappointed business-wise about it. Now we're fully focused on Slack and it helps us in building a great product for the narrow use-case. However, of course, we're looking for ways to expand our market. I'm not sure about Discord (how many of you guys are using it?), but MS Teams, Google Chat, and Stride are the other players that in my opinion will be able to compare with Slack in terms of features and market size.

hhh 8y ago
I've used Discord since sept 2015. It's been an interesting journey (my friend develops a bot and has reached 26,000 servers and 3 million users.) It's quite good, but still does not support stereo audio input inside of the client. Canary build has a new experimental audio subsystem so it may be now, haven't tested yet.
- alexxtomsk 8y ago
  Could you tell us about monetization of that bot? Does it make any money? It would be interesting to see whether Discord is already a platform to build a business on.
  - hhh 8y ago
    He doesn't make any money at all as far as I am aware. I think he may have 1-5 patrons on patreon, otherwise it's only ads on his control panel from a small ad company.
palisade 8y ago
During an interview I had at Discord recently the lead engineer mentioned they had exceeded 130 million users. Though, there was also a recent bump by almost 70 million people that left Skype and joined Discord in the news recently as well. He told me that Skype is the 800 pound gorilla to beat and that they have around 300 million users or something. They're definitely gunning for them, and Microsoft has changed Skype so much that they've alienated much of their user base in addition to having lots of security flaws. Discord touts their security, two factor auth, IP address hiding, plus having all the features of Skype in addition to the concept of slack-like chat rooms. More than just gamers are starting to use it. https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/discord-turns-three-1202810983/ https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/discord-turns-three-120... At the moment, Discord is ad-free and other than Nitro subscriptions which let you have animated profile images and use emoticons in any server, which he admitted was an almost unnoticeable revenue stream at the moment, they don't really have a way to monetize the platform. When I asked how they were planning to generate revenue and whether my job would be secure he said they haven't settled on any ideas yet but have a few bouncing around that he wouldn't tell me. He mentioned that once they reach 600 million users they consider that the break-even point where they've succeeded as a platform and can start considering putting possible plans into action. My guess is that advertising will play a big part, and possibly various other techniques like microtransactions, platform integrations, affiliates, partnership deals, content distribution (movies, music, games), etc. It is probably the break point at which you can afford to anger a percentage of your users in exchange for enough revenue to establish themselves as a self-sufficient organization.
- giancarlostoro 8y ago
  It's sad what Microsoft has done to Skype. I wish they'd stop screwing it up and fix the gaping security and performance issues that were just not there before they bought it and screwed with it's design (probably to merge it into their legacy corporate chat system). Thankfully they made Teams which I think is fine.
- alexxtomsk 8y ago
  Thanks, that's insightful. I wonder how can they get as many users. There are not enough gamers in the world to hit that number.
  - rnotaro 8y ago
    You are clearly underestimating the number of gamers in this world!
    - alexxtomsk 8y ago
      Yep, maybe. What a huge market!
- setr 8y ago
  >He told me that Skype is the 800 pound gorilla to beat and that they have around 300 million users or something. >He mentioned that once they reach 600 million users they consider that the break-even point where they've succeeded as a platform and can start considering putting possible plans into action. He needs to become a 1600 pound gorilla just to hit break-even?
jpcapdevila 8y ago
I use Discord daily as the main communication tool for a remote dev team. We have a voice and text channel for each project and works great.

hhh 8y ago

I've used Discord since sept 2015. It's been an interesting journey (my friend develops a bot and has reached 26,000 servers and 3 million users.) It's quite good, but still does not support stereo audio input inside of the client. Canary build has a new experimental audio subsystem so it may be now, haven't tested yet.

alexxtomsk 8y ago
Could you tell us about monetization of that bot? Does it make any money? It would be interesting to see whether Discord is already a platform to build a business on.
- hhh 8y ago
  He doesn't make any money at all as far as I am aware. I think he may have 1-5 patrons on patreon, otherwise it's only ads on his control panel from a small ad company.

palisade 8y ago

During an interview I had at Discord recently the lead engineer mentioned they had exceeded 130 million users. Though, there was also a recent bump by almost 70 million people that left Skype and joined Discord in the news recently as well. He told me that Skype is the 800 pound gorilla to beat and that they have around 300 million users or something. They're definitely gunning for them, and Microsoft has changed Skype so much that they've alienated much of their user base in addition to having lots of security flaws. Discord touts their security, two factor auth, IP address hiding, plus having all the features of Skype in addition to the concept of slack-like chat rooms. More than just gamers are starting to use it. https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/discord-turns-three-1202810983/ https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/discord-turns-three-120... At the moment, Discord is ad-free and other than Nitro subscriptions which let you have animated profile images and use emoticons in any server, which he admitted was an almost unnoticeable revenue stream at the moment, they don't really have a way to monetize the platform. When I asked how they were planning to generate revenue and whether my job would be secure he said they haven't settled on any ideas yet but have a few bouncing around that he wouldn't tell me. He mentioned that once they reach 600 million users they consider that the break-even point where they've succeeded as a platform and can start considering putting possible plans into action. My guess is that advertising will play a big part, and possibly various other techniques like microtransactions, platform integrations, affiliates, partnership deals, content distribution (movies, music, games), etc. It is probably the break point at which you can afford to anger a percentage of your users in exchange for enough revenue to establish themselves as a self-sufficient organization.

giancarlostoro 8y ago
It's sad what Microsoft has done to Skype. I wish they'd stop screwing it up and fix the gaping security and performance issues that were just not there before they bought it and screwed with it's design (probably to merge it into their legacy corporate chat system). Thankfully they made Teams which I think is fine.
alexxtomsk 8y ago
Thanks, that's insightful. I wonder how can they get as many users. There are not enough gamers in the world to hit that number.
- rnotaro 8y ago
  You are clearly underestimating the number of gamers in this world!
  - alexxtomsk 8y ago
    Yep, maybe. What a huge market!
setr 8y ago
>He told me that Skype is the 800 pound gorilla to beat and that they have around 300 million users or something. >He mentioned that once they reach 600 million users they consider that the break-even point where they've succeeded as a platform and can start considering putting possible plans into action. He needs to become a 1600 pound gorilla just to hit break-even?

jpcapdevila 8y ago

I use Discord daily as the main communication tool for a remote dev team. We have a voice and text channel for each project and works great.