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I know a lot of people I know have seen this coming and in the past few years have either switched to Windows (creative types) or to Linux (developer types). I

I know a lot of people I know have seen this coming and in the past few years have either switched to Windows (creative types) or to Linux (developer types). It's fascinating to see Apple's fall from grace. They were once considered the go to hardware vendor in nearly every market segment, are now being easily passed by their competitors.

samplesizeme 8y ago
I would be back in the Linux camp if I could find a combination of hardware and software that matches the MBP touchpad experience.
tonyedgecombe 8y ago
The figures don't show that, Mac sales are continuing to rise whilst the rest of the industry is in decline. There are clearly some vocal critics here, that isn't real evidence though.
- pwinnski 8y ago
  I think rising Mac sales are masking the problems for Apple. From Apple's perspective, rising sales demonstrates that the criticisms are coming from a tiny discontented minority. From my perspective, sales may be rising for many reasons, but these criticism don't bode well for the future. All these new Mac users will face the same problems, and that will slow replacement rate.
  - tonyedgecombe 8y ago
    But they will know what the statistics are for returned faulty hardware. If the reliability rate is as bad as implied then I can't imagine them ignoring it.
pjmlp 8y ago
Developer type on Windows. Being a developer is not a synonym for UNIX like development.
themagician 8y ago
No you don’t, no it’s not, no they weren’t, and no they aren’t. Apple has never had a majority market share in any segment. Ever. There was a time where they were popular in Japan and where they were popular in the creative fields, particularly print, advertising and film because of a few specialized applications (Quark, Final Cut, etc.). They ended up popular in college campuses post iPod and popular with developers in the 2006/2007 time frame after they switched to x86 because the combination of x86 and Unix made for a pretty developer friendly box. The new line of hardware has its problems, but that’s always been the case. The current line has a high failure on keyboards, the previous line had a problem with delaminating screens, the line before that thermal problems. They are selling more today than any other point in history and it doesn’t seem to be slowing down.
DoofusOfDeath 8y ago
My wife's photo business still prefers (new) Macs for editing work in Photoshop and Lightroom. Everything is just much less hassle than with Windows, despite the reduced choice in hardware. Also, there's no risk of Microsoft forcing an breaking update on here during her busy season.

samplesizeme 8y ago

I would be back in the Linux camp if I could find a combination of hardware and software that matches the MBP touchpad experience.

tonyedgecombe 8y ago

The figures don't show that, Mac sales are continuing to rise whilst the rest of the industry is in decline. There are clearly some vocal critics here, that isn't real evidence though.

pwinnski 8y ago
I think rising Mac sales are masking the problems for Apple. From Apple's perspective, rising sales demonstrates that the criticisms are coming from a tiny discontented minority. From my perspective, sales may be rising for many reasons, but these criticism don't bode well for the future. All these new Mac users will face the same problems, and that will slow replacement rate.
- tonyedgecombe 8y ago
  But they will know what the statistics are for returned faulty hardware. If the reliability rate is as bad as implied then I can't imagine them ignoring it.

pjmlp 8y ago

Developer type on Windows. Being a developer is not a synonym for UNIX like development.

themagician 8y ago

No you don’t, no it’s not, no they weren’t, and no they aren’t. Apple has never had a majority market share in any segment. Ever. There was a time where they were popular in Japan and where they were popular in the creative fields, particularly print, advertising and film because of a few specialized applications (Quark, Final Cut, etc.). They ended up popular in college campuses post iPod and popular with developers in the 2006/2007 time frame after they switched to x86 because the combination of x86 and Unix made for a pretty developer friendly box. The new line of hardware has its problems, but that’s always been the case. The current line has a high failure on keyboards, the previous line had a problem with delaminating screens, the line before that thermal problems. They are selling more today than any other point in history and it doesn’t seem to be slowing down.

DoofusOfDeath 8y ago

My wife's photo business still prefers (new) Macs for editing work in Photoshop and Lightroom. Everything is just much less hassle than with Windows, despite the reduced choice in hardware. Also, there's no risk of Microsoft forcing an breaking update on here during her busy season.