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Its by far time for we to leave the fishes of the hook. Dynamite fishing is bad but its just the tip of the iceberg in what concerns the global impact of fishin

by vfc1 8y ago

Its by far time for we to leave the fishes of the hook. Dynamite fishing is bad but its just the tip of the iceberg in what concerns the global impact of fishing. What about: - the widespread use of human slaves in southeast Asia still in 2018? - Or the massive ocean dead zones that keep getting bigger? - Or the 25% of by-catch (fish caught unintentionally and discarded)? - or the estimates that certain oceans will be fishless before 2050? - or catching fish like sardines, and instead of eating it directly, to feed it to farmed fish like salmon, at a huge cost and waste All of that for a food that has the highest concentrations of toxins that humans consume, to the point that its no longer recommended to pregnant women. The toxicity of fish is due to bioaccumulation (big fish eats small fish, eats smaller fish etc.), and fish has in many cases the same or even more cholesterol than meat. Plus omega 3 have been shown to not be recommendable to the general population, I think its time we stop eating it its completely unsustainable. Seriously, what kind of planet are we leaving to our kids?

jazoom 8y ago
You've got some good points there but also a lot of claims that really should be backed up by solid references.
- vfc1 8y ago
  You're right, here are some sources. Here is an article on the use of human slaves for fishing in Asia, they get kidnapped in villages in india and many other places, this is happening today, as we speak and at a large scale - http://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/2102498/tackling-slavery-thai-fishing-industry-one-victim http://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/artic... Here is an article on how ocean dead zones quadrupled since 1950 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/04/oceans-suffocating-dead-zones-oxygen-starved https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/04/oceans-s... The fishing industry now impacts 55% of the world oceans - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180222162124.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180222162124.h... For the health consequences of fish - https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/fish/ https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/fish/ "Eating just a single serving of fish each week during pregnancy, for example, can lead to more mercury in their infant’s body than injecting them directly with about a dozen mercury-containing vaccines." And from the American Heart Association "Fish oil supplements may help prevent death after a heart attack but lack evidence of cardiovascular benefit for the general population" - https://newsroom.heart.org/news/fish-oil-supplements-may-help-prevent-death-after-a-heart-attack-but-lack-evidence-of-cardiovascular-benefit-for-the-general-population https://newsroom.heart.org/news/fish-oil-supplements-may-hel...
  - AuthorizedCust 8y ago
    Your article about fish oil doesn't prove that fish oil isn't helpful. Supplements, in general, have often been shown not to have the protective effects expected, but that doesn't disprove the substance's effect when consumed in its natural host.
  - PostOnce 8y ago
    earlier this week, an article was posted to hn about IQ scores having fallen since the 70s, at https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-06-iq-scores-1970s.html https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-06-iq-scores-1970s.html one key takeaway: A British team recently found IQ score results falling by 2.5 to 4.3 points every decade since approximately the end of the second world war. And this past December, another group from the U.S. found that children who grew up eating a lot of fish tended to have higher IQs—and they slept better, too, which is another factor involved in adult intelligence levels. Notably, children in many countries in the modern era eat very little fish. Also, "a dozen mercury-containing vaccines", how much mercury is that? Is this like telling me not to fly because I get 1000x more radiation from it than eating a banana? Comparing the miniscule to the infinitesimal makes neither large.
meko 8y ago
The truth is this (discontinuing consumption) applies to all animal products, not just fish, we should also stop consuming beef pork and chicken as well. There are better, healthier cheaper proteins that can be acquired through other safer means that don't require the same environmental taxing (using more food to feed the animals we eat, getting rid of their waste, etc).

by vfc1 8y ago

jazoom 8y ago

You've got some good points there but also a lot of claims that really should be backed up by solid references.

vfc1 8y ago
You're right, here are some sources. Here is an article on the use of human slaves for fishing in Asia, they get kidnapped in villages in india and many other places, this is happening today, as we speak and at a large scale - http://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/2102498/tackling-slavery-thai-fishing-industry-one-victim http://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/artic... Here is an article on how ocean dead zones quadrupled since 1950 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/04/oceans-suffocating-dead-zones-oxygen-starved https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/04/oceans-s... The fishing industry now impacts 55% of the world oceans - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180222162124.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180222162124.h... For the health consequences of fish - https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/fish/ https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/fish/ "Eating just a single serving of fish each week during pregnancy, for example, can lead to more mercury in their infant’s body than injecting them directly with about a dozen mercury-containing vaccines." And from the American Heart Association "Fish oil supplements may help prevent death after a heart attack but lack evidence of cardiovascular benefit for the general population" - https://newsroom.heart.org/news/fish-oil-supplements-may-help-prevent-death-after-a-heart-attack-but-lack-evidence-of-cardiovascular-benefit-for-the-general-population https://newsroom.heart.org/news/fish-oil-supplements-may-hel...
- AuthorizedCust 8y ago
  Your article about fish oil doesn't prove that fish oil isn't helpful. Supplements, in general, have often been shown not to have the protective effects expected, but that doesn't disprove the substance's effect when consumed in its natural host.
- PostOnce 8y ago
  earlier this week, an article was posted to hn about IQ scores having fallen since the 70s, at https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-06-iq-scores-1970s.html https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-06-iq-scores-1970s.html one key takeaway: A British team recently found IQ score results falling by 2.5 to 4.3 points every decade since approximately the end of the second world war. And this past December, another group from the U.S. found that children who grew up eating a lot of fish tended to have higher IQs—and they slept better, too, which is another factor involved in adult intelligence levels. Notably, children in many countries in the modern era eat very little fish. Also, "a dozen mercury-containing vaccines", how much mercury is that? Is this like telling me not to fly because I get 1000x more radiation from it than eating a banana? Comparing the miniscule to the infinitesimal makes neither large.

meko 8y ago

The truth is this (discontinuing consumption) applies to all animal products, not just fish, we should also stop consuming beef pork and chicken as well. There are better, healthier cheaper proteins that can be acquired through other safer means that don't require the same environmental taxing (using more food to feed the animals we eat, getting rid of their waste, etc).