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Judges sentence youth offenders to chess, with promising results
- ericnyamu123456 8y agowow.check out this cool forum http://mawazo.byethost7.com/index.php http://mawazo.byethost7.com/index.php
- omeid2 8y agoSlightly off topic but I would like to mention that if you play chess online, the best one is lichess.org. It is free and opensource: https://github.com/ornicar/lila https://github.com/ornicar/lila. I am unaffiliated but really like lichess.
- c12 8y agoQuite serendipitously you reminded me that lichess.org exists. Thank you for that.
- fernandopj 8y agoThey are indeed a great example of an OSS success. Their website is great, apps run smoothly, great community and a very active founder - he insists on the project being open and adfree forever, supported by patrons: https://lichess.org/patron https://lichess.org/patron I'm also unaffiliated, just a user.
- local_yokel 8y agoCan also recommend lichess. Been playing there for a couple years now. They're a registered non-profit, and none of the features are hidden if you choose not to donate.
- simplify 8y agoAnd written in mithril.js, no less! :)
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- dschuetz 8y ago"Every move has consequences" - That is absolutely brilliant! Is there any better way to explain such an abstract life concept to kids who can't see the consequences of whatever they do?
- omeid2 8y agoAt the wake of all these concerns around video games, I am gonna risk it still and say Video Games. It teaches a lot about consequences. Perhaps not on par with chess, because, most popular games demands much less exercise in deliberation and strategic(/critical?) thinking.
- mehrdadn 8y agoWhat are the consequences? Respawning?
- omeid2 8y agoLosing the game, you might get a few chance to respawn, but most games have some sort of scoring system. It is not much different than a game of Chess, in many ways.
- mtgx 8y agoThen you better save first.
- mehrdadn 8y agoWith chess at least you have to restart from the beginning, like starting your life over I guess, making you rethink your strategy. With video games you typically regain health and restart from the last save...
- yorwba 8y agoThere are many games where death is permanent. It seems to be the default for roguelikes. Unfortunately the games of this kind are harder the longer you can play them, which means that the best ones are almost impossible to beat. That reminds me to try my hand at nethack again...
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- ramblerman 8y ago> In life, like chess, every move has a consequence. This is all pretty hyperbolic post-hoc reasoning. My guess is that against the alternative of juveniles just sitting in a cell and being neglected any program that stimulates them, invests time and effort into them, and gets them passionate is going to have promising results. disclaimer: I think this is a great result, and should be promoted but the pseudo-scientific explanations just get to me...
- omeid2 8y agoHow is making an analogy for action and consequence is hyperbolic post-hoc reasoning?
- michaelt 8y agoramblerman interprets "In life, like chess, every move has a consequence" to mean "The reason this program is effective is it teaches offenders that moves have consequences" and considers that a post-hoc explanation.
- JumpCrisscross 8y agoI work in an industry which encourages ADD. Chess is one of the ways I maintain my attention span. My game tells me when I’m tired, stressed, inattentive or missing forests for trees.
- ramblerman 8y agoMe too. I notice a distinct drop in my tactic exercises when I'm underslept. Not sure what that has to do with my initial point though.
- skj 8y agoSome times people just like to say things that add to the conversation without driving someone else's point. It's not a problem.
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- toomanybeersies 8y agoIn Australia, they have (or were) using flying lessons to try and rehabilitate drug addicts [1]. Apparently the idea was to stall the plane and have the patients recover from the stall, as a way of teaching them about taking control of their own life. I don't know what the long term results are, and it's part of a longer term rehab program so it would be hard to narrow it down specifically. Regardless, it's an interesting approach. It's good to see that authorities are realising that the traditional approaches to addiction and criminal rehabilitiation are ineffective and trying other options. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-australia-43369891/australia-fights-drug-addiction-with-plane-flying-lessons https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-australia-43369891/austral...
- jazoom 8y agoI can imagine the board meeting where they were discussing an alternative "high" they could offer the drug addicts.
- J-dawg 8y agoI've noticed people often object to these types of schemes because they see them as rewarding people for bad behaviour. I'm not usually one of those people (If it works, it works, right?). But I feel like giving out flying lessons (a lifelong and unaffordable goal for many people) would be a pretty tough idea to sell to the tax paying public.
- yardie 8y agoAdd it to the long list of shit taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for, except prison. Incarceration costs $70-120k/pp/year. Keeping someone in custody for 10-20 years vs paying to learn a trade seems no nsensical. But that’s what the voters and politicians want.
- ams6110 8y agoThe counter argument would be we should spend less on prisons, not more on other stuff. People who struggle to make ends meet within the confines of social norms and laws would say lock them up six to a cell and feed them rice and beans.
- implements 8y agoSeason 1, episode 3 of "The Wire" has a pretty inciteful scene featuring Chess as a metaphor for the criminal life ("Pawns get capped early."): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztc7o0NzFrE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztc7o0NzFrE
- SubiculumCode 8y agoAs much as I love the Wire, it should have mentioned that collectively pawns are the most powerful. A good pawn structure controls the center and the game.
- RickJWagner 8y agoI bet they cheat. :) Seriously, it seems like it would encourage discipline, a good thing.
- psergeant 8y agoI’d be interested to see its effectiveness vs any other activity involving high quality time with intelligent, motivated, caring adults.
- mondoshawan 8y agoI do wonder, what, exactly they mean by non-violent crimes. It's early in the morning and my brain isn't quite up to snuff yet, but all I can think of are vandalism, copyright violation, and stealing...?
- chriskanan 8y agoMost property crimes, such as theft, embezzlement, receipt of stolen goods, vandalism, and arson of personal property Fraud, tax crimes, other forms of white collar crime Drug and alcohol-related crimes Prostitution Racketeering and gambling Bribery From: https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/non-violent-vs-violent-crimes.html https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/non-violent-v...
- toomanybeersies 8y agoI don't think they're locking kids up in juvie for tax evasion...
- retsibsi 8y agoIt would include drug crimes as well. I think you can take the words at face value (with an implied 'physically' modifying 'violent'), except that crimes involving only the threat of violence may count as violent crimes.
- binarymax 8y agoWhen I was a teenager (in the 90s) I was a chess teacher/coach. I won't quote cliches and metaphors which I believe are trite and gloss over the point. While we had a large group of behaved kids, some parents would send their troublesome children to learn chess as a way to socialize in a healthy intellectual environment with a strong value and ethics system. As a coach it was very difficult, especially since I was socially awkward and troubled myself as a teen. We wouldn't just play chess though - which can get very competitive and one sided. We also enjoyed team activities like the chess variants bughouse and kriegspiel, and we'd get outside and play soccer and kickball too - I found those to be the most helpful (I love those two variants I mentioned much more than chess). In short, the rewards were real and long-lasting. Chess helped turn me around personally, and gave me an exposure for responsibility (and I fucked up a couple times but that's part of learning from mistakes in life). I know many of the children in our club went on to have responsible and successful lives, and while it wasn't really our goal (we were just playing games!), it makes me happy that it was a side effect.
- SubiculumCode 8y agoChess limits the blame game. You lost because you didn't think, son. Chess encapsulates an attitude that it starts and ends with yourself.
- kazinator 8y agoChess will teach the youth to be better strategists, to better evade the authorities when they become adult offenders.
- haydd 8y agoWhite judge gives white youths slap on the wrist, experts say water still wet.
- ca98am79 8y agoThe great thing about chess is that it does not discriminate. A child can beat an adult, poor can beat rich, uneducated can beat educated, etc.. When I played as a kid, it gave me a lot of confidence because I could beat a grown adult in a game of intellect. This had a huge impact on my life.
- forkLding 8y agoI wonder if Go is a better game, it is quite easy to pick up (surround opponents with different colour) but also very long to play.