I totally agree with you. There is an occlusion of the collective will in all of these arguments. Its like, a surefire way to win any argument is to invoke th

I totally agree with you. There is an occlusion of the collective will in all of these arguments. Its like, a surefire way to win any argument is to invoke the collective against an individual, since the collective whole is greater than the individual unit. But, there's also the fact that the collective holds itself back willingly and utterly, whereas individual desire seems to be unlimited in our species. I guess the mores of one over the other, drive the cycle forward, endlessly. Personally, I'm very glad that people such as Elon Musk exist, and on a more basic level, I hope to see Musk succeed in all of his endeavours. The collective sure isn't doing much of any interest, in the meantime...