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I’m not saying he should be promoted now or before. I’m saying company culture is to blame for this or at least should be the first thing to review instead of b

I’m not saying he should be promoted now or before. I’m saying company culture is to blame for this or at least should be the first thing to review instead of blaming the employee immediately. what if the next person that doesn’t get promoted suicides?

jmts 8y ago
You're conflating two issues here. The company is not responsible for the decisions of its employees relating to promotions. It is the employee that chooses to do something irrational for whatever reason. I agree that a company should reflect on any given incident to determine whether there internal factors that may have contributed to its outcome, however ensuring the personal lives of employees are in tip-top shape is not something a company should ever be responsible for.
- supergirl 8y ago
  perhaps, tesla does indeed sound like a company that does the bare minimum required by law for its employees.
rplst8 8y ago
Nobody is entitled to a promotion. One is promoted based on merit. And the promotee is not the judge of merit. If someone commits suicide because they didn't get a promotion then I'd argue that person is likely to unstable to be working.
- supergirl 8y ago
  everybody has a breaking point. some lower than others. if they don’t review the culture how would they know if it’s just this person or many more close to the breaking point? not getting promotion might be just one contributing factor. overwork could be another. harassment, discrimination others. they picked one that is convenient
RunawayGalaxy 8y ago
There are fewer promotions than people who want promotions at virtually every company. The vast majority of people don't behave criminally out of spite when they are passed over. At what point does personal responsibility play a role in a person's actions? I'm genuinely curious. If the culture is the first thing that should be reviewed, that seems to imply that it is more to blame than the individual.
twodave 8y ago
I would say that would be an HR responsibility more than a CEO’s responsibility. It’s hard to judge Tesla’s HR philosophy based on a passing comment by Musk.

jmts 8y ago

You're conflating two issues here. The company is not responsible for the decisions of its employees relating to promotions. It is the employee that chooses to do something irrational for whatever reason. I agree that a company should reflect on any given incident to determine whether there internal factors that may have contributed to its outcome, however ensuring the personal lives of employees are in tip-top shape is not something a company should ever be responsible for.

supergirl 8y ago
perhaps, tesla does indeed sound like a company that does the bare minimum required by law for its employees.

rplst8 8y ago

Nobody is entitled to a promotion. One is promoted based on merit. And the promotee is not the judge of merit. If someone commits suicide because they didn't get a promotion then I'd argue that person is likely to unstable to be working.

supergirl 8y ago
everybody has a breaking point. some lower than others. if they don’t review the culture how would they know if it’s just this person or many more close to the breaking point? not getting promotion might be just one contributing factor. overwork could be another. harassment, discrimination others. they picked one that is convenient

RunawayGalaxy 8y ago

There are fewer promotions than people who want promotions at virtually every company. The vast majority of people don't behave criminally out of spite when they are passed over. At what point does personal responsibility play a role in a person's actions? I'm genuinely curious. If the culture is the first thing that should be reviewed, that seems to imply that it is more to blame than the individual.

twodave 8y ago

I would say that would be an HR responsibility more than a CEO’s responsibility. It’s hard to judge Tesla’s HR philosophy based on a passing comment by Musk.