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A bad parent could easily make a child fit all the criteria given by just being a bad parent. Something like this should not exist in the ICD. There should be

A bad parent could easily make a child fit all the criteria given by just being a bad parent. Something like this should not exist in the ICD. There should be a general addiction disorder that puts forth general criteria for showing that a person has an addiction for something. This just looks like a scapegoat to me.

tomnipotent 8y ago
> There should be a general addiction disorder Absolutely ridiculous. The entire point of identifying a disorder and defining the mechanisms for diagnosis is so that we can create treatment plans to help people overcome these issues. You don't treat gaming addiction the same way you would heroine, alcohol, or gambling.
- Mirioron 8y ago
  Heroin and alcohol addiction are physical addictions. They are a completely different matter. Gambling addiction is them same as this, and there is basically no effective treatment available. Just like there won't be one for social media addiction or gaming addiction or reading addiction or sex addiction or masturbation addiction or... I suggest reading up on how addiction treatment for gambling goes. The person still is a problem gambler at the end of treatment and it's considered successful. The entire model for addiction for non-substance abuse addiction seems sketchy.
dragonwriter 8y ago
> A bad parent could easily make a child fit all the criteria given by just being a bad parent. That's just as true of lots of diagnoses of physical and mental conditions and injuries. (bone fractures and PTSD are obvious examples.) The fact that bad parenting can cause a condition doesn't invalidate the diagnosis of the condition. > Something like this should not exist in the ICD. There should be a general addiction disorder that puts forth general criteria for showing that a person has an addiction for something. The inherent differences between different subjects of addiction require some source specific variation, but various addictive disorders in either the ICD or the DSM do have generally similar criteria. > This just looks like a scapegoat to me. A scapegoat for what?
- Mirioron 8y ago
  >The fact that bad parenting can cause a condition doesn't invalidate the diagnosis of the condition. You misunderstood me. The bad parent causes it by being there. If you removed the bad parent then there would be no problem. One of the criteria (although not mentioned in this article) is that the person is having negative consequences happen in a family situation because of their gaming. A bad parent could cause these negative consequences by simply being a bad parent and as a result the kid could withdraw into gaming. With this disorder around the parent can simply blame the kid playing games without looking at their own behavior. >A scapegoat for what? For people who alienate those close to them, so that they can blame something else other than their behavior. If a kid wants to interact with their family then they will.

tomnipotent 8y ago

> There should be a general addiction disorder Absolutely ridiculous. The entire point of identifying a disorder and defining the mechanisms for diagnosis is so that we can create treatment plans to help people overcome these issues. You don't treat gaming addiction the same way you would heroine, alcohol, or gambling.

Mirioron 8y ago
Heroin and alcohol addiction are physical addictions. They are a completely different matter. Gambling addiction is them same as this, and there is basically no effective treatment available. Just like there won't be one for social media addiction or gaming addiction or reading addiction or sex addiction or masturbation addiction or... I suggest reading up on how addiction treatment for gambling goes. The person still is a problem gambler at the end of treatment and it's considered successful. The entire model for addiction for non-substance abuse addiction seems sketchy.

dragonwriter 8y ago

> A bad parent could easily make a child fit all the criteria given by just being a bad parent. That's just as true of lots of diagnoses of physical and mental conditions and injuries. (bone fractures and PTSD are obvious examples.) The fact that bad parenting can cause a condition doesn't invalidate the diagnosis of the condition. > Something like this should not exist in the ICD. There should be a general addiction disorder that puts forth general criteria for showing that a person has an addiction for something. The inherent differences between different subjects of addiction require some source specific variation, but various addictive disorders in either the ICD or the DSM do have generally similar criteria. > This just looks like a scapegoat to me. A scapegoat for what?

Mirioron 8y ago
>The fact that bad parenting can cause a condition doesn't invalidate the diagnosis of the condition. You misunderstood me. The bad parent causes it by being there. If you removed the bad parent then there would be no problem. One of the criteria (although not mentioned in this article) is that the person is having negative consequences happen in a family situation because of their gaming. A bad parent could cause these negative consequences by simply being a bad parent and as a result the kid could withdraw into gaming. With this disorder around the parent can simply blame the kid playing games without looking at their own behavior. >A scapegoat for what? For people who alienate those close to them, so that they can blame something else other than their behavior. If a kid wants to interact with their family then they will.