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What you described is basic human nature. It has been with us since the dawn of our species and will be with us until we blink out of existence. The best we c

What you described is basic human nature. It has been with us since the dawn of our species and will be with us until we blink out of existence. The best we can do is try to incentivize the appreciation and preservation of beauty and equality. Because the minute it is in our own best interest to do otherwise, we will revert to our baser instincts.

fallingfrog 8y ago
And the "basic human nature" argument is absolutely false, although it's a popular narrative, and I would suggest that you go and do some research on anthropology and perhaps visit some countries that are not the United States and see how they do things there. Believe it or not the conquest/domination mindset is relatively new, and it's neither inevitable nor is it natural. You don't act like that towards your friends and neighbors, do you? Just steal anything that isn't nailed down? Most people don't. You've been sold a bill of goods, by a small set of sociopathic individuals who want to justify their criminal behavior.
- joejerryronnie 8y ago
  Most "groups" of people have behaved horrendously toward other "groups" of people, animals, natural resources, etc. I'm not sure how you can possibly look at any type of human history and think otherwise, the evidence is just too overwhelming. And, this may not just be human nature but the natural progression of higher order mental processing and group dynamics as evidenced by tribes of primates assembling war parties and killing and eating their rival primate tribes. And which countries outside of the US would you suggest I look for this peaceful utopia? Somewhere in Asia, Africa, or South America? I'm not sure Australia is the best example. And please don't suggest socialist Europe, who have committed some of the worst atrocities known to man in the very recent past. It is extremely naive to think that the majority of society's aggressive tendancies can be blamed on a handful of ruthless leaders or sociopaths. If that were the case, this would be a simple problem to solve. The much tougher truth is that we each have a piece of this inside of us.
fallingfrog 8y ago
We've become so used to a complete lack of anything remotely resembling morality from our leaders that we've started to believe that good behavior is literally impossible. Utopian. It is not. To ask for a higher standard than abject failure is not utopian. It's no more than I would ask of any 6th grader. Sociopathic behavior is learned and it can be unlearned.
fallingfrog 8y ago
I mean would you stab someone on the street, take their money, and then say "oh it's not my fault, it's human nature..."

fallingfrog 8y ago

And the "basic human nature" argument is absolutely false, although it's a popular narrative, and I would suggest that you go and do some research on anthropology and perhaps visit some countries that are not the United States and see how they do things there. Believe it or not the conquest/domination mindset is relatively new, and it's neither inevitable nor is it natural. You don't act like that towards your friends and neighbors, do you? Just steal anything that isn't nailed down? Most people don't. You've been sold a bill of goods, by a small set of sociopathic individuals who want to justify their criminal behavior.

joejerryronnie 8y ago
Most "groups" of people have behaved horrendously toward other "groups" of people, animals, natural resources, etc. I'm not sure how you can possibly look at any type of human history and think otherwise, the evidence is just too overwhelming. And, this may not just be human nature but the natural progression of higher order mental processing and group dynamics as evidenced by tribes of primates assembling war parties and killing and eating their rival primate tribes. And which countries outside of the US would you suggest I look for this peaceful utopia? Somewhere in Asia, Africa, or South America? I'm not sure Australia is the best example. And please don't suggest socialist Europe, who have committed some of the worst atrocities known to man in the very recent past. It is extremely naive to think that the majority of society's aggressive tendancies can be blamed on a handful of ruthless leaders or sociopaths. If that were the case, this would be a simple problem to solve. The much tougher truth is that we each have a piece of this inside of us.

fallingfrog 8y ago

We've become so used to a complete lack of anything remotely resembling morality from our leaders that we've started to believe that good behavior is literally impossible. Utopian. It is not. To ask for a higher standard than abject failure is not utopian. It's no more than I would ask of any 6th grader. Sociopathic behavior is learned and it can be unlearned.

fallingfrog 8y ago

I mean would you stab someone on the street, take their money, and then say "oh it's not my fault, it's human nature..."