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Who's arguing the app store inhibits handset competition? Did you even read the article? The argument is that Apple chokes app developers ON THE APP STORE. The

Who's arguing the app store inhibits handset competition? Did you even read the article? The argument is that Apple chokes app developers ON THE APP STORE. The existence of other handset manufactures is irrelevant

artimaeis 8y ago
> Who's arguing the app store inhibits handset competition? Considering you're declaring Apple's practices anti-competitive, I thought you were. Apple's competition is definitively other handset manufacturers. > The argument is that Apple chokes app developers ON THE APP STORE Okay so you're trying to lay down that Apple, who profits _billions_ per quarter on the iOS App Store, is actively engaging in practices which _discourage_ competition? I mean, I think I see where you're coming from, and that fits a kind of definition of anti-competitive practice. Since a developer can't offer software free of the app store Apple has manipulated their own market to discourage that kind of competition. Still the fact is that there is nothing _special_ about iPhones or any other phone. They have distinct user bases. Despite the fact that Apple does sell software on their platform, if they didn't I don't believe it would change their position on the value of the walled garden. Apple is competing with decidedly few software companies, and those it competes with seem to be able to manage just fine even on iOS (see: Apple Music v Spotify, Notes v many-notes-apps, Reminders v many-todo-apps, etc.). It's not as though Apple releases apps then removes competing apps from the app store _because_ of the competition. Either way, thanks for engaging. I doubt we agree, but it was good to explore the thought out some more.
Retric 8y ago
Gillette Razor Blades are not a monopoly. They are simply part of a product which is in a highly competitive market. Talking about a monopoly within an ecosystem misses what a monopoly means in economic terms. It's a question of consumer choice and leverage.

artimaeis 8y ago

> Who's arguing the app store inhibits handset competition? Considering you're declaring Apple's practices anti-competitive, I thought you were. Apple's competition is definitively other handset manufacturers. > The argument is that Apple chokes app developers ON THE APP STORE Okay so you're trying to lay down that Apple, who profits _billions_ per quarter on the iOS App Store, is actively engaging in practices which _discourage_ competition? I mean, I think I see where you're coming from, and that fits a kind of definition of anti-competitive practice. Since a developer can't offer software free of the app store Apple has manipulated their own market to discourage that kind of competition. Still the fact is that there is nothing _special_ about iPhones or any other phone. They have distinct user bases. Despite the fact that Apple does sell software on their platform, if they didn't I don't believe it would change their position on the value of the walled garden. Apple is competing with decidedly few software companies, and those it competes with seem to be able to manage just fine even on iOS (see: Apple Music v Spotify, Notes v many-notes-apps, Reminders v many-todo-apps, etc.). It's not as though Apple releases apps then removes competing apps from the app store _because_ of the competition. Either way, thanks for engaging. I doubt we agree, but it was good to explore the thought out some more.

Retric 8y ago

Gillette Razor Blades are not a monopoly. They are simply part of a product which is in a highly competitive market. Talking about a monopoly within an ecosystem misses what a monopoly means in economic terms. It's a question of consumer choice and leverage.