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It's kinda funny how Americans still thinks US is doing shit to help anyone else besides themselves and their business interests. China is now doing the same t

It's kinda funny how Americans still thinks US is doing shit to help anyone else besides themselves and their business interests. China is now doing the same thing the west/ImF/world Bank have always done. But in the case of China they don't run around toppling government and the countries do get general infrastructure while the west usually just built the bare minimum to get the resources out. Yes its imperialism but I'd take the Chinese version over the horrors of the western Empire any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

mywittyname 8y ago
I think Chinese leadership have a different set of incentives than Americans do. American businesses are about minimizing production costs in order to sell as much as possible in the US market. While the Chinese government seems to prefer expanding the market for their domestic good by raising the stands of living in developing countries. Similar to how the US handled Japan and South Korea instead of Latin America and the middle east.
mistermann 8y ago
> It's kinda funny how Americans still thinks US is doing shit to help anyone else besides themselves and their business interests. It depends on what you mean by that statement I suppose. It sounds like you are of the opinion that literally every single foreign aid initiative the United States of America undertakes is, at it's core, entirely (not partially, as I would suspect the case to be, but entirely) for the purposes of advancing the interests of American businesses. Is that a more or less proper characterization of what you've said, or have I misunderstood? And if it is proper, how might you have come to know this? I mean, for the sake of argument let's assume it's true - if this what they were really up to, I'd think most of the corresponding proof would be known only to a fairly select group of trustworthy insiders. How would you have found out these details? This story doesn't seem to add up, but maybe I'm missing something? > China is now doing the same thing the west/ImF/world Bank have always done. The exact same thing, or something similar?
- bmag147 8y ago
  https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/0452287081 https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins...

mywittyname 8y ago

I think Chinese leadership have a different set of incentives than Americans do. American businesses are about minimizing production costs in order to sell as much as possible in the US market. While the Chinese government seems to prefer expanding the market for their domestic good by raising the stands of living in developing countries. Similar to how the US handled Japan and South Korea instead of Latin America and the middle east.

mistermann 8y ago

> It's kinda funny how Americans still thinks US is doing shit to help anyone else besides themselves and their business interests. It depends on what you mean by that statement I suppose. It sounds like you are of the opinion that literally every single foreign aid initiative the United States of America undertakes is, at it's core, entirely (not partially, as I would suspect the case to be, but entirely) for the purposes of advancing the interests of American businesses. Is that a more or less proper characterization of what you've said, or have I misunderstood? And if it is proper, how might you have come to know this? I mean, for the sake of argument let's assume it's true - if this what they were really up to, I'd think most of the corresponding proof would be known only to a fairly select group of trustworthy insiders. How would you have found out these details? This story doesn't seem to add up, but maybe I'm missing something? > China is now doing the same thing the west/ImF/world Bank have always done. The exact same thing, or something similar?

bmag147 8y ago
https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/0452287081 https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins...