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This article missed discussing the real influencers: niche influencers. I follow a number of Sailing and Hiking YouTube vloggers and I know they aren't getting

by mullen 8y ago

This article missed discussing the real influencers: niche influencers. I follow a number of Sailing and Hiking YouTube vloggers and I know they aren't getting rich but it does allow them to keep doing what they love to do. Sailing Delos and Sailing La Vagabonde are the two power house sailing vloggers that make enough money off of Patreon, YouTube and sponsorships to keep sailing around the world and living a really great lifestyle. I know that Sailing La Vagabonde did well enough to get a good deal on a new catamaran, free clothes and bathing suits to keep them going for a long time. I would not be surprised if Sailing Delos got a good sponsorship from Amel boats to keep sailing for many many more years.

busterarm 8y ago
> good deal on a new catamaran You mean free? Notice how that channel hardly ever goes as in depth on major maintenance requirements as the other sailing channels do? It's all fun and adventure. Not to say that's wrong -- I enjoy watching that channel. There are soooo many sailing channels right now (I can think of at least 40 somewhat popular ones) and the vast majority of them are filming low quality content and sticking their hands out. Side note: If you want to gauge which channels aren't getting heavy sponsorship dollars, it's the ones that _almost always_ anchor vs tie up at the marina.
- throwawaymath 8y ago
  > Side note: If you want to gauge which channels aren't getting heavy sponsorship dollars, it's the ones that _almost always_ anchor vs tie up at the marina. Can you explain this for someone who doesn't know anything about boats?
  - dhruvkar 8y ago
    To tie up at a marina, you usually need to pay the marina for the slip. To anchor, you just need an area where anchoring is okay, no need to pay anyone.
  - busterarm 8y ago
    Marinas generally charge by the foot (and sometimes additionally by the hull, as in 2x for catamarans). A one month tie-up in a marina will run you several hundred to several thousand dollars depending on the above factors, the location and the season. Anchoring is free, but then you need to come to shore in (and store) a dinghy Basically yachting is very expensive. A Panama Canal crossing in your pleasurecraft these days will run about $2k. Those youtube channels are basically lifestyle advertising -- some of those cruisers are heavily (financially) supported.
    - jdietrich 8y ago
      >Basically yachting is very expensive. Yachting can be very expensive. Annie Hill, Moxie Marlinspike and many others prove that it can also be extremely cheap. https://www.amazon.com/Voyaging-Small-Income-Annie-Hill/dp/1888671378 https://www.amazon.com/Voyaging-Small-Income-Annie-Hill/dp/1... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lwbHYOFD-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lwbHYOFD-4
      - busterarm 8y ago
        I plan on being a frugal, liveaboard, solo cruiser by the time I'm 40. Those examples are a bit at the extreme though.
  - damon_c 8y ago
    Anchoring is free. Tying up at a marina is charged by the foot of boat length/night. typical cost per one night: 35 feet * $4 = $140/night.
  - daphneokeefe 8y ago
    Generally, it is free to "anchor" but you have to pay to tie up to a dock at a marina. When you anchor (drop a heavy weight on a rope to the sea bottom to keep your boat from drifting away) you have no connection to the land. You have to use a smaller boat (perhaps a dinghy) to row or motor over to the dock. Even then, you have no external electrical outlet or water hose. If you pull your boat up to a dock in a marina, you can get electricity and water, and you can walk away to dine or shop, etc. These are generalities. Sometimes you have to pay to anchor, and sometimes you can park at a dock for free.
  - tcpekin 8y ago
    Anchoring is usually much cheaper/free since you don't get any facilities, whereas staying at the marina costs $$ per night, due to electricity, WiFi, water, restrooms, showers, etc.
- gapo 8y ago
  As some one beginning sailing and interested in watching these channels, would you care to list a few of your favorites ?
  - busterarm 8y ago
    https://www.reddit.com/r/sailing/comments/41x8rj/what_are_your_favorite_youtube_sailing_channels/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sailing/comments/41x8rj/what_are_yo... I tend to gravitate towards FTB, Uma, Vagabonde, Delos and racing channels though. Watching mostly naked 20yr olds gets boring after a while though.

by mullen 8y ago

busterarm 8y ago

> good deal on a new catamaran You mean free? Notice how that channel hardly ever goes as in depth on major maintenance requirements as the other sailing channels do? It's all fun and adventure. Not to say that's wrong -- I enjoy watching that channel. There are soooo many sailing channels right now (I can think of at least 40 somewhat popular ones) and the vast majority of them are filming low quality content and sticking their hands out. Side note: If you want to gauge which channels aren't getting heavy sponsorship dollars, it's the ones that _almost always_ anchor vs tie up at the marina.

throwawaymath 8y ago
> Side note: If you want to gauge which channels aren't getting heavy sponsorship dollars, it's the ones that _almost always_ anchor vs tie up at the marina. Can you explain this for someone who doesn't know anything about boats?
- dhruvkar 8y ago
  To tie up at a marina, you usually need to pay the marina for the slip. To anchor, you just need an area where anchoring is okay, no need to pay anyone.
- busterarm 8y ago
  Marinas generally charge by the foot (and sometimes additionally by the hull, as in 2x for catamarans). A one month tie-up in a marina will run you several hundred to several thousand dollars depending on the above factors, the location and the season. Anchoring is free, but then you need to come to shore in (and store) a dinghy Basically yachting is very expensive. A Panama Canal crossing in your pleasurecraft these days will run about $2k. Those youtube channels are basically lifestyle advertising -- some of those cruisers are heavily (financially) supported.
  - jdietrich 8y ago
    >Basically yachting is very expensive. Yachting can be very expensive. Annie Hill, Moxie Marlinspike and many others prove that it can also be extremely cheap. https://www.amazon.com/Voyaging-Small-Income-Annie-Hill/dp/1888671378 https://www.amazon.com/Voyaging-Small-Income-Annie-Hill/dp/1... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lwbHYOFD-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lwbHYOFD-4
    - busterarm 8y ago
      I plan on being a frugal, liveaboard, solo cruiser by the time I'm 40. Those examples are a bit at the extreme though.
- damon_c 8y ago
  Anchoring is free. Tying up at a marina is charged by the foot of boat length/night. typical cost per one night: 35 feet * $4 = $140/night.
- daphneokeefe 8y ago
  Generally, it is free to "anchor" but you have to pay to tie up to a dock at a marina. When you anchor (drop a heavy weight on a rope to the sea bottom to keep your boat from drifting away) you have no connection to the land. You have to use a smaller boat (perhaps a dinghy) to row or motor over to the dock. Even then, you have no external electrical outlet or water hose. If you pull your boat up to a dock in a marina, you can get electricity and water, and you can walk away to dine or shop, etc. These are generalities. Sometimes you have to pay to anchor, and sometimes you can park at a dock for free.
- tcpekin 8y ago
  Anchoring is usually much cheaper/free since you don't get any facilities, whereas staying at the marina costs $$ per night, due to electricity, WiFi, water, restrooms, showers, etc.
gapo 8y ago
As some one beginning sailing and interested in watching these channels, would you care to list a few of your favorites ?
- busterarm 8y ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/sailing/comments/41x8rj/what_are_your_favorite_youtube_sailing_channels/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sailing/comments/41x8rj/what_are_yo... I tend to gravitate towards FTB, Uma, Vagabonde, Delos and racing channels though. Watching mostly naked 20yr olds gets boring after a while though.