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TFA is blocked. Does it talk about protectionism, cronyism, poor IP enforcement, restrictions on foreign media and communication companies, or forced technology

TFA is blocked. Does it talk about protectionism, cronyism, poor IP enforcement, restrictions on foreign media and communication companies, or forced technology transfer from foreign firms as a condition of doing business in China? These aren't the only factors behind China's rise as a tech superpower, but without them China wouldn't be where it is today.

coldtea 8y ago
So like most other countries that are now pointing their fingers? http://theconversation.com/trumps-protectionism-continues-long-history-of-us-rejection-of-free-trade-91190 http://theconversation.com/trumps-protectionism-continues-lo... http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/12/06/we-were-pirates-too/ http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/12/06/we-were-pirates-too/ http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/no-copyright-law-the-real-reason-for-germany-s-industrial-expansion-a-710976.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/no-copyright-l...
- mistermann 8y ago
  Do these other countries continue to enjoy WTO Developing Nation Status, which enables a lot of the unfair advantages China enjoys as pointed out by the grandparent comment? https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/devel_e/dev_special_differential_provisions_e.htm#legal_provisions https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/devel_e/dev_special_dif... Pointing out the historic cheating of now first world countries is fair if questionably relevant, pointing out Donald Trump's raising of tariffs as hypocrisy (I assume) is down right silly, especially in the context of this conversation.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    >Do these other countries continue to enjoy WTO Developing Nation Status, which enables a lot of the unfair advantages China enjoys as pointed out by the grandparent comment? No -- they don't need it as much, as they already climbed the lax-IP/protectionism ladder for centuries to get high. Now they insist nobody currently lower than them should use the ladder.
    - mistermann 8y ago
      Taking your last sentence literally, is that actually your honest assessment of this dispute, in its entirety?
      - coldtea 8y ago
        My actually assessment of this dispute is even worse.
        mistermann 8y ago
        "Now they insist nobody currently lower than them should use the ladder." How might you know this though? No one has said anything out loud even remotely comparable to this, so how might have you formed this conclusion? What information source are you using? I'd be quite interested to hear your actual full assessment if you have the time.
        coldtea 8y ago
        >How might you know this though? No one has said anything out loud even remotely comparable to this, so how might have you formed this conclusion? What information source are you using? Are you kidding me? The party line from western politicians, establishment media (NYT, Economist, and so on), and establishment (read "state sponsored") think tanks, are exactly that: "Do as we say, not as we did".
        mistermann 8y ago
        I have a feeling you're not aware of the human mind's capabilities as it relates to realtime classification, association, translation of sentences into far more detailed and colorful ideas. Let's test this theory: post the most compelling actual evidence you have that backs up the claim: "Now they insist nobody currently lower than them should use the ladder."
        8y ago

coldtea 8y ago

So like most other countries that are now pointing their fingers? http://theconversation.com/trumps-protectionism-continues-long-history-of-us-rejection-of-free-trade-91190 http://theconversation.com/trumps-protectionism-continues-lo... http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/12/06/we-were-pirates-too/ http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/12/06/we-were-pirates-too/ http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/no-copyright-law-the-real-reason-for-germany-s-industrial-expansion-a-710976.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/no-copyright-l...

mistermann 8y ago
Do these other countries continue to enjoy WTO Developing Nation Status, which enables a lot of the unfair advantages China enjoys as pointed out by the grandparent comment? https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/devel_e/dev_special_differential_provisions_e.htm#legal_provisions https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/devel_e/dev_special_dif... Pointing out the historic cheating of now first world countries is fair if questionably relevant, pointing out Donald Trump's raising of tariffs as hypocrisy (I assume) is down right silly, especially in the context of this conversation.
- coldtea 8y ago
  >Do these other countries continue to enjoy WTO Developing Nation Status, which enables a lot of the unfair advantages China enjoys as pointed out by the grandparent comment? No -- they don't need it as much, as they already climbed the lax-IP/protectionism ladder for centuries to get high. Now they insist nobody currently lower than them should use the ladder.
  - mistermann 8y ago
    Taking your last sentence literally, is that actually your honest assessment of this dispute, in its entirety?
    - coldtea 8y ago
      My actually assessment of this dispute is even worse.
      - mistermann 8y ago
        "Now they insist nobody currently lower than them should use the ladder." How might you know this though? No one has said anything out loud even remotely comparable to this, so how might have you formed this conclusion? What information source are you using? I'd be quite interested to hear your actual full assessment if you have the time.
        coldtea 8y ago
        >How might you know this though? No one has said anything out loud even remotely comparable to this, so how might have you formed this conclusion? What information source are you using? Are you kidding me? The party line from western politicians, establishment media (NYT, Economist, and so on), and establishment (read "state sponsored") think tanks, are exactly that: "Do as we say, not as we did".
        mistermann 8y ago
        I have a feeling you're not aware of the human mind's capabilities as it relates to realtime classification, association, translation of sentences into far more detailed and colorful ideas. Let's test this theory: post the most compelling actual evidence you have that backs up the claim: "Now they insist nobody currently lower than them should use the ladder."
        8y ago