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Which will of which people was ignored?
by fifnir 8y ago
Which will of which people was ignored?
- shp0ngle 8y agoBoth. Nationalist Greeks are angry and so do nationalist Makedonians. I would think both countries have more important things to protest about than name change, but then I don't live on Balkans.
- ben_w 8y agoWill of the people != will of the nationalists. Can’t really say the will of the people is being ignored when referenda are planned, referenda which one can reasonably still presume will be binding.
- v_lisivka 8y agoBoth Greece and Macedonia are national countries, so in this case will of the people == will of the nationalists.
- newfoundglory 8y agoGreece probably shouldn't have elected an anti-nationalist governing party then.
- v_lisivka 8y agoSome nations have home: their own country, so in these cases people == nation, and will of the people == will of the nation.
- immigrantsheep 8y agoThings like these are, sadly, very important in the Balkans sigh
- FactolSarin 8y agoI'm pretty sure the name of your own country is important to most people everywhere.
- nspattak 8y agothe first part of your last sentence: Welcome to Balkans!
- phobosdeimos 8y agoStrange AFAIK the Greek-Macedonian border is not contested. Both countries acknowledge eachother sovereignty.
- v_lisivka 8y agoBecause of rules of NATO.
- djif 8y agoThat will: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42937889 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42937889 And before you speak again about nationalists, etc read a bit about Mikis Theodorakis who was the main speaker addressing the crowd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikis_Theodorakis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikis_Theodorakis
- detaro 8y agoSo on both sides, the people that are unhappy would have wanted the other side to make more concessions?
- fifnir 8y agoThat's exactly why I poked him. Only nationalists are displeased. source: I'm Greek and I think this is a great deal
- djif 8y agoI can see you can't really understand what a nationalist means despite one representative source I cited with regards to Mikis Theodorakis. I won't mock you for that -as you did- however to make my point easier for you here is a hint: M. Theodorakis has been a communist all his life and was imprisoned during the Greek dictatorship (Junta) in 1967-74. Junta is the 'dream' of Greek nationalists (see Golden Dawn). I think that'd be helpful
- macns 8y agoTo my eyes Miki is reading someone else's opinions. Happens a lot lately. It looks like he is being used every time he steps up publicly regarding national matters. IMHO.