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>Black american culture has been pretty self-destructive these last hundred years. This is entirely your own subjective opinion and a very racist one. Except y

>Black american culture has been pretty self-destructive these last hundred years. This is entirely your own subjective opinion and a very racist one. Except you can provide definite proof that show that rap music, jazz music etc somehow lead to 'self-destruction' (or even that single motherhood is some deliberate part of the culture) all you're doing is revealing your personal dislikes and biases. It is also a very selective statement - no one conflates the behavior of say redneck Americans or free love hippies with the self-destructive culture of white America.

gspetr 8y ago
The four cornerstones of gangsta rap music (seemingly the dominant subset of it) are: 1)Prostitutes (And pimps and promiscuous sex and STDs that go along with that) 2)Guns (And you can bet those aren't being used for self-defense against wild animals when you travel to your remote cabin in the woods for a weekend) 3)Drugs (These are self-evidently bad, so no need to elaborate) 4)Money (Often obtained as a result of illegal use/exploitation of some or all of the above) And even absent all that you can often hear lyrics about the performer singing about how he (or the song's protagonist) "couldn't make it in a white man's world": Afroman - Palmdale. That type of depressive, often criminal culture seems to fit the description of "self-destruction". > no one conflates the behavior of say redneck Americans or free love hippies with the self-destructive culture of white America. Neither rednecks nor hippies have any significant influence on how an average white american behaves. Most people would struggle to name any names. Yet it's trivial for people to name a few prominent gangsta rappers. Heck, those who achieved cult status were shot in mid 90s.
- unclebucknasty 8y ago
  >Neither rednecks nor hippies have any significant influence on how an average white american behaves Meanwhile uber-violent and hyper-sexualized mass-market movies, outright pornography, and death metal are largely produced by white people/entities. Should we discuss the influence they have on how ”average american whites” behave? For that matter, much of "gangsta rap" has been produced by white-owned entities. In short, you provided the "four cornerstones of gangsta rap music". For each, we could just as easily plug in widely consumed, top-grossing films or other products of "white culture". Meanwhile, back in the real-world, mass shootings seem to be the near-exclusive purview of white men. Shall we also opine on the destructiveness of white culture based on that? The point is that racist generalizations don't help anyone.
  - gspetr 8y ago
    Mass shootings are insignificant in the total amount of shootings. http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states 2016: 38,658 2015: 36,247 2014: 33,599 2013: 33,636 2012: 33,563 2011: 32,351 2010: 31,672 2009: 31,347 2008: 31,593 Which year have mass shootings by whites amounted to at least 1% of total gun deaths? As for Death Metal bands, how many of the performers in this genre have been arrested for gun-related crimes? How many were killed by guns and went on to achieve cult status? > are largely produced by white people/entities. Jewish, not white. Jewish culture is distinct from generic white culture. You can get away with a lot with Jewish privilege, like Bill Maher's casual N-word use on television. A random white John Doe's career would have been done right there.
    - scabarott 8y ago
      I think you're completely failing to get the point. It's not about statistics, it's about perception (I wonder what percentage of Black Americans actually listen to rap music or have anything to do with 'gangsta' culture). In this case your perceptions are warped because of your own biases. I'm also glad the poster above brought up the example of mass-market movies. Porn is probably another good example of something that no one conflates with 'white culture' even if there are seemingly good reasons to. There are many other aspects of mass culture in the west that are viewed very negatively elsewhere. The poster certainly makes a good point about mass shootings as well, whatever the percentages are they certainly make a huge bang on public perception. We can argue stats all day but what constitutes 'good' culture or 'bad' culture is your own subjective opinion and your (racial) bias makes you blind to one and hyper-sensitive about others edit - Also by making that distinction btw 'jewish' and 'white' culture you're very plainly showing where you're coming from. edit - I just took a look through your profile and now I'm not surprised at all. A very common theme emerges lol. You can disregard everything I said above since it won't make sense to you either way
      - truthisunpc 8y ago
        "Also by making that distinction btw 'jewish' and 'white' culture you're very plainly showing where you're coming from." You are talking about a genetic reality, Jews are different than most europeans because they partly originate in the middle east and were largely genetically isolated. If you believe in evolution that means they also evolved a different brain structure. They claim to be white when it is convenient.

gspetr 8y ago

The four cornerstones of gangsta rap music (seemingly the dominant subset of it) are: 1)Prostitutes (And pimps and promiscuous sex and STDs that go along with that) 2)Guns (And you can bet those aren't being used for self-defense against wild animals when you travel to your remote cabin in the woods for a weekend) 3)Drugs (These are self-evidently bad, so no need to elaborate) 4)Money (Often obtained as a result of illegal use/exploitation of some or all of the above) And even absent all that you can often hear lyrics about the performer singing about how he (or the song's protagonist) "couldn't make it in a white man's world": Afroman - Palmdale. That type of depressive, often criminal culture seems to fit the description of "self-destruction". > no one conflates the behavior of say redneck Americans or free love hippies with the self-destructive culture of white America. Neither rednecks nor hippies have any significant influence on how an average white american behaves. Most people would struggle to name any names. Yet it's trivial for people to name a few prominent gangsta rappers. Heck, those who achieved cult status were shot in mid 90s.

unclebucknasty 8y ago
>Neither rednecks nor hippies have any significant influence on how an average white american behaves Meanwhile uber-violent and hyper-sexualized mass-market movies, outright pornography, and death metal are largely produced by white people/entities. Should we discuss the influence they have on how ”average american whites” behave? For that matter, much of "gangsta rap" has been produced by white-owned entities. In short, you provided the "four cornerstones of gangsta rap music". For each, we could just as easily plug in widely consumed, top-grossing films or other products of "white culture". Meanwhile, back in the real-world, mass shootings seem to be the near-exclusive purview of white men. Shall we also opine on the destructiveness of white culture based on that? The point is that racist generalizations don't help anyone.
- gspetr 8y ago
  Mass shootings are insignificant in the total amount of shootings. http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states 2016: 38,658 2015: 36,247 2014: 33,599 2013: 33,636 2012: 33,563 2011: 32,351 2010: 31,672 2009: 31,347 2008: 31,593 Which year have mass shootings by whites amounted to at least 1% of total gun deaths? As for Death Metal bands, how many of the performers in this genre have been arrested for gun-related crimes? How many were killed by guns and went on to achieve cult status? > are largely produced by white people/entities. Jewish, not white. Jewish culture is distinct from generic white culture. You can get away with a lot with Jewish privilege, like Bill Maher's casual N-word use on television. A random white John Doe's career would have been done right there.
  - scabarott 8y ago
    I think you're completely failing to get the point. It's not about statistics, it's about perception (I wonder what percentage of Black Americans actually listen to rap music or have anything to do with 'gangsta' culture). In this case your perceptions are warped because of your own biases. I'm also glad the poster above brought up the example of mass-market movies. Porn is probably another good example of something that no one conflates with 'white culture' even if there are seemingly good reasons to. There are many other aspects of mass culture in the west that are viewed very negatively elsewhere. The poster certainly makes a good point about mass shootings as well, whatever the percentages are they certainly make a huge bang on public perception. We can argue stats all day but what constitutes 'good' culture or 'bad' culture is your own subjective opinion and your (racial) bias makes you blind to one and hyper-sensitive about others edit - Also by making that distinction btw 'jewish' and 'white' culture you're very plainly showing where you're coming from. edit - I just took a look through your profile and now I'm not surprised at all. A very common theme emerges lol. You can disregard everything I said above since it won't make sense to you either way
    - truthisunpc 8y ago
      "Also by making that distinction btw 'jewish' and 'white' culture you're very plainly showing where you're coming from." You are talking about a genetic reality, Jews are different than most europeans because they partly originate in the middle east and were largely genetically isolated. If you believe in evolution that means they also evolved a different brain structure. They claim to be white when it is convenient.