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Black people on average make 1/3 less income than the average white person because certain significant subgroups of white people are highly privileged. The prob

by shados 8y ago

Black people on average make 1/3 less income than the average white person because certain significant subgroups of white people are highly privileged. The problem you then hit is that when you start compensating for certain groups by race, instead of the actual root of the problem (people who don't come from a priviledged background have a hard time getting out of it), you then leave everyone else absolutely screwed. There's a LOOOOOOT of white people out there, and some are in exactly the same boat. That's what is happening here, but with Asians. Imagine you're Asian but not from a privileged background. Now not only you have to claw yourself out of that, not only you have to deal with not being white, but you also have to fight against the school's racial quota. Odds aren't great for you. Worse, its' not just some society bias, it's not just people's racism...it's literally a rule. We're in 2018. Let's not have rules that screw over underprivileged people by race just because some subgroups of those race might make the statistics look in their favor.

rayiner 8y ago
> Black people on average make 1/3 less income than the average white person because certain significant subgroups of white people are highly privileged. No that is wrong. It’s not some elite white subgroup. According to the BLS: “Among the major race and ethnicity groups, median weekly earnings for Black men working at full-time jobs were $723, or 72.5 percent of the median for White men ($997).” That’s not even counting large differences in employment rates. Put another way, if whites took a pay cut so they made the same as blacks, $1.6 trillion of national income would disappear, a number comparable to the total income of the entire top 1% ($2 trillion). We’re not talking about elites. The median white person is much better off than the median black person.
- sremani 8y ago
  In spite of a century the Black population is still concentrated in the South. I am not saying the disparity does not exist. Blacks are less than 10% of population in California and about 33% of population in Alabama. That it self will skew numbers in certain way.
  - shipman05 8y ago
    Which in some ways proves the point. Poverty begets poverty. Black Americans are under-represented in the well-educated cohorts of young professionals who get high salary jobs and easily move to high cost-of-living areas.
  - harryh 8y ago
    The median white person's salary in Alabama is ~29k. The median black person's salary in Alabama is ~20k. http://www.usacityfacts.com/al/economy/ http://www.usacityfacts.com/al/economy/ Your assertion that difference in American black/white incomes is largely due to differences in geographic distribution is wrong.
- AnthonyMouse 8y ago
  > Put another way, if whites took a pay cut so they made the same as blacks, $1.6 trillion of national income would disappear, a number comparable to the total income of the entire top 1% ($2 trillion). Isn't this how that is expected to look if the difference is due to elites? The total difference is equal to the amount made by the elites, almost all of whom are white. And that's assuming the "elites" are only the top 1% and not e.g. the top 20%. Or look at it from the bottom side. The population of white people who make less than the median black person in the US is larger than the black population of the US.

by shados 8y ago

rayiner 8y ago

> Black people on average make 1/3 less income than the average white person because certain significant subgroups of white people are highly privileged. No that is wrong. It’s not some elite white subgroup. According to the BLS: “Among the major race and ethnicity groups, median weekly earnings for Black men working at full-time jobs were $723, or 72.5 percent of the median for White men ($997).” That’s not even counting large differences in employment rates. Put another way, if whites took a pay cut so they made the same as blacks, $1.6 trillion of national income would disappear, a number comparable to the total income of the entire top 1% ($2 trillion). We’re not talking about elites. The median white person is much better off than the median black person.

sremani 8y ago
In spite of a century the Black population is still concentrated in the South. I am not saying the disparity does not exist. Blacks are less than 10% of population in California and about 33% of population in Alabama. That it self will skew numbers in certain way.
- shipman05 8y ago
  Which in some ways proves the point. Poverty begets poverty. Black Americans are under-represented in the well-educated cohorts of young professionals who get high salary jobs and easily move to high cost-of-living areas.
- harryh 8y ago
  The median white person's salary in Alabama is ~29k. The median black person's salary in Alabama is ~20k. http://www.usacityfacts.com/al/economy/ http://www.usacityfacts.com/al/economy/ Your assertion that difference in American black/white incomes is largely due to differences in geographic distribution is wrong.
AnthonyMouse 8y ago
> Put another way, if whites took a pay cut so they made the same as blacks, $1.6 trillion of national income would disappear, a number comparable to the total income of the entire top 1% ($2 trillion). Isn't this how that is expected to look if the difference is due to elites? The total difference is equal to the amount made by the elites, almost all of whom are white. And that's assuming the "elites" are only the top 1% and not e.g. the top 20%. Or look at it from the bottom side. The population of white people who make less than the median black person in the US is larger than the black population of the US.