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8K 13.3'' OLED laptop screen [video]
- jseliger 8y agoReminds me of this article: https://www.monitornerds.com/oled-pc-monitors/ https://www.monitornerds.com/oled-pc-monitors/ on the subject of where OLEDs are. Dell famously announced that 30" OLED display two or three years ago, and then revived it once or twice only to cancel. Seems like a shame, especially given how prevalent OLED TVs have become.
- denimnerd 8y agodon’t see how they can solve burn in unless they come up with something really innovative like shifting a 30” image around a 31” screen
- omarforgotpwd 8y agoI looked at the keyboard and thought wow what a good looking notebook almost looks like a Macbook keyboard! Then I realized... oh wait that is a Macbook keyboard complete with command keys and system shortcuts in the top row.
- robertely 8y agoIt's not even that, it's a rubber keyboard protector. It's just a mock up.
- mikekchar 8y agoThe actual computer driving the display is probably in the pedestal. I was actually wondering at first why there was a glass case around it, but it's almost certainly so that you don't try to pick it up :-) When I worked for a hardware company we did the same thing at shows all the time.
- slededit 8y agoUnless they've solved the burn in issues that isn't going to last very long. TVs show static images less often so it's easier to work around there.
- AboutTheWhisles 8y agoThere are many phones that have OLED screens.
- jdietrich 8y agoSome of which have known issues with screen burn: https://www.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-xl-screen-burn https://www.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-xl-screen-burn
- denimnerd 8y agoI was super careful with my phone and always minimized brightness and I still got burn in after 18 months. Even my plasma tv is going strong 10 years with no issues.
- amiga-workbench 8y agoMy Nexus S singed its lockscreen padlock into the display in less than 6 months and the OLED turned yellow not long after as the blue subpixels degraded.
- yitchelle 8y agoIs having 8K in such a small screen make any difference to our eyes from, say, a 4K screen or even lower resolution?
- noir_lord 8y agoIt's 331 dpi vs 660dpi (roughly). At Laptop distance you'd have to have very good eyesight, I can't see the pixels on my 14"@2560x1440 unless I lean right in and that's ~210dpi. So not really, it's just another "Our number is bigger" metric...
- chrisparton1991 8y agoAnd it comes at the cost of having to process all of those pixels. I think I'd rather have a cooler laptop with longer battery life than a very marginal visual improvement to my screen. That said, I'm all for progress and cramming that many pixels into such a small space is impressive, so kudos to BOE for that. This would be useful for VR.
- geerlingguy 8y agoI imagine you could also carry around a physical loupe and use it to pixel peep instead of doing it in software (e.g. when processing photos)!
- karmakaze 8y agoNot only VR but when pixels are smaller than the area needed to produce light they can become invisible like adverts that wrap vehicle windows. Lets us have cameras and other sensors behind the entire screen.
- berbec 8y ago> And it comes at the cost of having to process all of those pixels. Totally agree. I wish they had stopped at 200ppi phones. I don't understand the logic to spend cpu/gpu horsepower and mwh on a mobile display. I like my phone (LG G6) but really wish I had the battery life and performance dropping the resolution to 1080p would give me.
- intopieces 8y agoWhy is the contrast ratio listed as 1300:1? If it's an OLED screen, shouldn't it be infinite, since the pixels turn off? The AMOLED screens they show later are listed at >1m:1.
- fake-name 8y agoPossibly there's leakage current even when they try to turn the pixels off.
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- xt00 8y agoWith OLED the black levels are affected by random pixel mura—which makes pixels that should be off show as slightly on. So you can cover that by biasing them up slightly so they are all slightly on and the blacks look more uniform—however the actual contrast ratio suffers. The higher the PPI for oled typically the worse the mura issue gets. So likely they will improve this over time to get the black levels down and effectively the contrast ratio will go way up.
- thegoleffect 8y agoAt only 300 nits, it is not gonna look good in daylight though.
- baybal2 8y agoBut it has near no own emissivity black. It should be at around first gen oled phone at this like samsung i7500
- baybal2 8y agoBTW BOE stands for Beijing Optoelectronics. The company that lived on gigantic state handouts up until around 3 years ago.
- losvedir 8y agoWow, that's an incredible pixel density. At what point does it start to approximate reality? For instance, is this enough that if you put one of these panels on the wall displaying a high resolution image, it could look like an ordinary window out into real life?
- jchw 8y agoI imagine color gamut and brightness is a bigger issue for that.
- userbinator 8y agoOne word: parallax. If you don't move in front of it, possibly; but the fact that humans have depth perception will tend to spoil the illusion a bit.
- anjellow 8y agoNah, you'd need to emulate the depth and lighting of a real window before anyone would mistake a screen as reality.
- prawn 8y agoThis might seem a bit sad, but one of my dreams is to replace a wall of my suburban Australian house with an edge-to-edge video screen that looks like a portal to a hi-def (seemingly live) scene of Utah. Sun rises. Weather rolls in. Sun starts to set. Animals wander past, etc. That would be some serious escapism for me when I don't have the time/money to justify the flights. So far, the best option has been wandering around Red Dead Redemption on a big TV...
- chrissnell 8y agoSave the money and buy the flights. You don't need to justify a dream. I drive across the US once or twice a year to camp in the deserts of Utah and it is, indeed, a trip of a lifetime. My photos are here: https://www.instagram.com/desertdefender/ https://www.instagram.com/desertdefender/ and some more here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/defender90/albums/72157633554934498 https://www.flickr.com/photos/defender90/albums/721576335549... https://www.flickr.com/photos/defender90/albums/72157626204989387 https://www.flickr.com/photos/defender90/albums/721576262049... https://www.flickr.com/photos/defender90/albums/72157625240335210 https://www.flickr.com/photos/defender90/albums/721576252403...
- purpleidea 8y agoThe fact that the bendable screen wasn't having the bend changed in real-time felt like a big red flag. They made the claim this could be used to "unfold" your phone into a tablet. It should be a no-brainer to have the image changing and a small motor flexing the screen open and closed. I'm guessing this tech isn't actually ready yet.
- jamesrom 8y agoI think the bigger red flag is that none of these screens showed moving images. Only a single demo with a very slowly blooming flower... and it didn't look great.
- nkoren 8y agoThis is a very poor demo. There are other videos which show it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mgs7P16Gao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mgs7P16Gao
- anonymous5133 8y agoIs there any point in having an 8k screen right now? seems like there isn't even a lot of 4k content as is. So unless you are a graphic designer or something it seems pointless right now...or am I missing something here?
- noitsnot 8y agoI feel like it's a push to the next big thing no one will really care about, like 3D Tv, because nothing better is in the pipeline to sell something you already have.
- staticassertion 8y agoVR and phones come to mind. On a laptop? Yeah, not quite sure.
- sjwright 8y agoYou are not missing anything. It's worth remembering that most films made in the past two decades have been mastered at 2K, most films are distributed to cinemas at 2K, and most cinema projectors are 2K. Yes, most films are mastered and distributed at a resolution barely superior to 1080p. In most respects, for the purposes of media consumption on a rectangular screen of any practical size, 4K already exceeds useful detail levels. 8K is absurd. Technology and content innovation should focus on high frame rate and high dynamic range.
- coldseattle 8y agoThis hasn't been true for several years. Most films today are 4K (Cinema) http://gadgetflux.net/list-of-4k-mastered-hollywood-movies/ http://gadgetflux.net/list-of-4k-mastered-hollywood-movies/
- sjwright 8y agoCorrect, which is why I defined the two decade aperture, not a two year one. My point is that 2K is clearly sufficient because it has been satisfying moviegoers for a long time. And that the threshold of useful detail will be somewhere between 2K and 4K; exceeding 4K is pointless.