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> DB will introduce the nre ICE 4 train on the route, which allow bicycles to be taken for the first time and with 830 seats provide 10% more capacity than the
by beeforpork 8y ago
> DB will introduce the nre ICE 4 train on the route, which allow bicycles to be taken for the first time and with 830 seats provide 10% more capacity than the previous model.
These ICE4 are the worst ICEs in terms of comfort. They've been reducing the distance between rows over the years, and it is now only 85cm. It used to be 102cm in the ICE1 -- that was cool. ICE2 had 97cm, ICE3 had 92cm, which was still comfortable for me. Now, 85cm is too short to sit comfortably if you are a tall person. The previous models all had good seats and enough space. But the ICE4 is awful. The seats are also too upright and the backrest can only be tilted when pulling the seat to the front, which is impossible for taller people because the legs will have no space. Without this, the seats are so upright they almost push you over. Naps are impossible due to this. And where some lordose support should be, there is a hole. I really hate the ICE4s, I always end up with a sore back.
But sure, there is 10% more capacity thank you very much.
- nisa 8y agosame with the new ICs - I used to really enjoy going with a IC - even more than a ICE - now it's just a like white RE the seats also seem to be the same.
- ahartmetz 8y agoICE4 also has a maximum speed of "only" 250 km/h. Deutsche Bahn has apparently given up on higher speeds. By the way, even ICE1 trains are less comfortable than they used to be because the rubber rings in the wheels were removed for safety reasons.
- currysausage 8y agoYes, most German routes are not built for higher speeds, so it made sense to optimize new trains for cost and reliability instead of speed. But Berlin—Munich has a Vmax of 300 km/h, so it would only make sense to put more ICE 3 on that route. I doubt the ICE 4 info is correct.