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It would be great for the persistence of knowledge if they'd engrave the knowledge into titanium slabs that are buried in a protected cave as well. Correct me

It would be great for the persistence of knowledge if they'd engrave the knowledge into titanium slabs that are buried in a protected cave as well. Correct me if I am wrong though, I believe, usually, that presentations are meant to be shown on a stage of some sort. I don't see how accessibility comes into play here. What I often see is that presentations at conferences/meetups, etc are not shared at all. Rather than giving props to gmarty you complain about accessibility. He made an effort to create a great looking presentations and, instead of a compliment, he gets criticised for not adhering to a 'better' technological and user experience standard to achieve it. The irony being that if he'd have opted to not share at all, there wouldn't have been a user experience problem to begin with.

Fnoord 8y ago
If you read the thread, there's multiple comments about the back button. Do you want that to be not expressed as well? > The irony being that if he'd have opted to not share at all, there wouldn't have been a user experience problem to begin with. This isn't what GP asserted, this is a hyperbole. GP is just making a suggestion to improve the software. You can take the suggestion for granted, comment on it, ignore it, you can up- and downvote it even. Just like you can do on GitHub or one of its competitors. You could even take it into account during a major overhaul. If you can't even give honest feedback [1] on creative works we end up in a world of self-censorship. Compare it to how you're not allowed to give a negative reference in Germany. The difference then becomes in how positive people are raving about the employee. Pretty soon, you get a fake society where you supposedly fake it until you make it. I'd rather have brutal sincerity. Its more realistic and easier to process therefore more efficient. Please, if my code sucks, tell me so, and tell me where you think I could improve. Heck, send me a patch or clone my git repo. I thrive on criticism as long as its constructive instead of destructive. The comment of GP is constructive. [1] In this case a suggestion for improvement.
toxicFork 8y ago
Your way of thinking is not healthy for personal development or long-term happiness. People should not do things to receive compliments. If they receive a compliment, they may feel better for a second. How much further does that take them? Criticism should be welcomed, not fought. If the person used text instead of images, this knowledge would be easier to spread around to people who have eye problems, for example, and perhaps even for search engine optimisation. They'd be known in a bigger circle. At the cost of a bit more effort, perhaps. It's up to the person who gives the presentation to decide whether this effort is worth it. But they would NOT be hurt by criticism. If they are, that's a big problem. However, if they never see the criticism, they would have fewer opportunities to improve. Giving a compliment is giving a fish. Giving criticism is helping someone fish better.
- blahblahblahw 8y ago
  > Your way of thinking is not healthy for personal development or long-term happiness. You don't have a clue how to achieve this because nobody else does either. And if somebody has achieved this, it is almost certain they achieved it in a way that works for them only. If you claim you have figured this out you are lying. Yet you lecture.. My theory is you are just a hypercritical asshole and you've found a way to "justify" it.
  - toxicFork 8y ago
    I agree that it can be subjective. But do you think that that fighting all criticism is healthy? How do you define who is an asshole? What is "hyper"critical? I would naturally argue that you are a hypocrite.
    - blahblahblahw 8y ago
      Pointing out someone being hypercritical does not in itself make one hypercritical. Being hypercritical implies a pattern . Have some self awareness, man. Whatever it takes to resolve the cognitive dissonance though, right my dudebro?

Fnoord 8y ago

If you read the thread, there's multiple comments about the back button. Do you want that to be not expressed as well? > The irony being that if he'd have opted to not share at all, there wouldn't have been a user experience problem to begin with. This isn't what GP asserted, this is a hyperbole. GP is just making a suggestion to improve the software. You can take the suggestion for granted, comment on it, ignore it, you can up- and downvote it even. Just like you can do on GitHub or one of its competitors. You could even take it into account during a major overhaul. If you can't even give honest feedback [1] on creative works we end up in a world of self-censorship. Compare it to how you're not allowed to give a negative reference in Germany. The difference then becomes in how positive people are raving about the employee. Pretty soon, you get a fake society where you supposedly fake it until you make it. I'd rather have brutal sincerity. Its more realistic and easier to process therefore more efficient. Please, if my code sucks, tell me so, and tell me where you think I could improve. Heck, send me a patch or clone my git repo. I thrive on criticism as long as its constructive instead of destructive. The comment of GP is constructive. [1] In this case a suggestion for improvement.

toxicFork 8y ago

Your way of thinking is not healthy for personal development or long-term happiness. People should not do things to receive compliments. If they receive a compliment, they may feel better for a second. How much further does that take them? Criticism should be welcomed, not fought. If the person used text instead of images, this knowledge would be easier to spread around to people who have eye problems, for example, and perhaps even for search engine optimisation. They'd be known in a bigger circle. At the cost of a bit more effort, perhaps. It's up to the person who gives the presentation to decide whether this effort is worth it. But they would NOT be hurt by criticism. If they are, that's a big problem. However, if they never see the criticism, they would have fewer opportunities to improve. Giving a compliment is giving a fish. Giving criticism is helping someone fish better.

blahblahblahw 8y ago
> Your way of thinking is not healthy for personal development or long-term happiness. You don't have a clue how to achieve this because nobody else does either. And if somebody has achieved this, it is almost certain they achieved it in a way that works for them only. If you claim you have figured this out you are lying. Yet you lecture.. My theory is you are just a hypercritical asshole and you've found a way to "justify" it.
- toxicFork 8y ago
  I agree that it can be subjective. But do you think that that fighting all criticism is healthy? How do you define who is an asshole? What is "hyper"critical? I would naturally argue that you are a hypocrite.
  - blahblahblahw 8y ago
    Pointing out someone being hypercritical does not in itself make one hypercritical. Being hypercritical implies a pattern . Have some self awareness, man. Whatever it takes to resolve the cognitive dissonance though, right my dudebro?