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It's amazing to me that people still believe high blood pressure is some lifelong ailment you need to learn to cope with. Of all "diseases" it is pretty much th

by aviv 8y ago

It's amazing to me that people still believe high blood pressure is some lifelong ailment you need to learn to cope with. Of all "diseases" it is pretty much the easiest to fix. It is well known that as short as a 8-10 day water fast is sufficient to drop any medication and restore a normal life, provided of course that you resume at least a somewhat normal diet and not McDonalds, high protein Keto crap, etc. It's really remarkable how such a "disease" can be sold to the public as a lifelong issue.

dsr_ 8y ago
I am interested in your hypothesis and would like to see the research supporting it.
- aviv 8y ago
  If reducing high blood pressure is important to you, don't trust a random dude on HN. Spend some time researching the concept of water fasting as well as dry fasting and you will find the literature that leads you to conclude it is a worthwhile effort for your best shot at curing many man made "diseases" such as high blood pressure, diabetes, Crohn's and all other IBS/Ds, among many many many others. The information is readily accessible and available to be found if you do it with an open mind. I don't have links or whatever to send you. This is not a new topic for me so I don't have a folder with bookmarks I keep around to include in my replies here or elsewhere. I have been around fasting (water, dry, and grape fasting) and herbal remedies for the last 20 years and have seen hundreds, probably thousands, of people cure diseases their top doctors once said were incurable. But again, don't believe me (and most don't, hence why I always get downvoted or flagged), believe yourself once you open up your mind to life changing information that's out there. When you realize your health is quite literally in your own hands, you free yourself to find the right information.
  - mmt 8y ago
    > hence why I always get downvoted or flagged), Actually, I suspect this complaint itself that causes it. Especially combined with words and phrases that tend to inflame skepticism. It's a bit disingenuous to imply otherwise.
    - aviv 8y ago
      Today was the first time I ever complained about getting downvoted because I know it triggers HNers instantly.
      - mmt 8y ago
        > Today was the first time I ever complained about getting downvoted Well that's (easily) verifiable as false, and the behavior is contrary to the guidelines regardless of any "trigger".
        aviv 8y ago
        You are correct, I did mention it once more 22 days ago. Forgot about that one. Prior to that I've had thousands of comments here on HN in the last 10 years that I have not mentioned it in. And many have been downvoted within minutes or as I mentioned, more recently flagged.
  - kenferry 8y ago
    Well, if you'd like to be upvoted, maybe find a couple of those study links. I looked into water fasting several years ago because a friend's father went on a 40 day water fast to address cancer. Everything I found at that time was that it was dangerous. He made it through the fast and the cancer didn't get any worse, but it didn't do any good. My friend was just relieved that he didn't badly hurt himself. He subsequently went on chemo, which worked.
Angostura 8y ago
> It is well known A quick search suggests that is mainly known among alternative therapy sites and there isn't much science backing it up. Since high-blood pressure costs the NHS in excess of £2bn a year, I would expect a fair degree of research.

by aviv 8y ago

dsr_ 8y ago

I am interested in your hypothesis and would like to see the research supporting it.

aviv 8y ago
If reducing high blood pressure is important to you, don't trust a random dude on HN. Spend some time researching the concept of water fasting as well as dry fasting and you will find the literature that leads you to conclude it is a worthwhile effort for your best shot at curing many man made "diseases" such as high blood pressure, diabetes, Crohn's and all other IBS/Ds, among many many many others. The information is readily accessible and available to be found if you do it with an open mind. I don't have links or whatever to send you. This is not a new topic for me so I don't have a folder with bookmarks I keep around to include in my replies here or elsewhere. I have been around fasting (water, dry, and grape fasting) and herbal remedies for the last 20 years and have seen hundreds, probably thousands, of people cure diseases their top doctors once said were incurable. But again, don't believe me (and most don't, hence why I always get downvoted or flagged), believe yourself once you open up your mind to life changing information that's out there. When you realize your health is quite literally in your own hands, you free yourself to find the right information.
- mmt 8y ago
  > hence why I always get downvoted or flagged), Actually, I suspect this complaint itself that causes it. Especially combined with words and phrases that tend to inflame skepticism. It's a bit disingenuous to imply otherwise.
  - aviv 8y ago
    Today was the first time I ever complained about getting downvoted because I know it triggers HNers instantly.
    - mmt 8y ago
      > Today was the first time I ever complained about getting downvoted Well that's (easily) verifiable as false, and the behavior is contrary to the guidelines regardless of any "trigger".
      - aviv 8y ago
        You are correct, I did mention it once more 22 days ago. Forgot about that one. Prior to that I've had thousands of comments here on HN in the last 10 years that I have not mentioned it in. And many have been downvoted within minutes or as I mentioned, more recently flagged.
- kenferry 8y ago
  Well, if you'd like to be upvoted, maybe find a couple of those study links. I looked into water fasting several years ago because a friend's father went on a 40 day water fast to address cancer. Everything I found at that time was that it was dangerous. He made it through the fast and the cancer didn't get any worse, but it didn't do any good. My friend was just relieved that he didn't badly hurt himself. He subsequently went on chemo, which worked.

Angostura 8y ago

> It is well known A quick search suggests that is mainly known among alternative therapy sites and there isn't much science backing it up. Since high-blood pressure costs the NHS in excess of £2bn a year, I would expect a fair degree of research.