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It's was about time we moved on to the next energy-storage technology for mobile devices. I can't believe in 2018, battery is still the main issue of all flagsh

It's was about time we moved on to the next energy-storage technology for mobile devices. I can't believe in 2018, battery is still the main issue of all flagships.

jdavis703 8y ago
Won't it always be an issue? I have a feeling they'll just put in more and better power-hungry hardware and software and we'll be back in the minimally acceptable battery life range.
- function_seven 8y ago
  Right. And if they don’t do that, then the phone will just get thinner. We already have incredible energy density compared to a decade ago, but that budget is used up by shaving millimeters off the thickness.
  - packet_nerd 8y ago
    > used up by shaving millimeters off the thickness I wish they didn't do that, I would gladly carry around a slightly bigger phone if it had much better battery life.
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    - bdamm 8y ago
      Many phone models do have expansion options like this, even iPhones. I for one am appreciative of “low power mode” so I get to choose efficiency over app freshness.
      - function_seven 8y ago
        Yeah, but that (1) feels like the hardware equivalent of DLC, and (2) the resulting unit is much thicker than it would be if the battery were designed into the device from the start. I get why some people prefer thinness over battery life. Not all use cases are the same. Just wish that there was an option when choosing a model to go with svelte or chunky.
    - danjayh 8y ago
      I have an LG V20 with a 6700mAh battery. Goes for DAYS with moderate use, and will easily make it all day with extremely heavy use. I managed to kill it exactly once, with 4 hours of screen-on nav + steaming spotify, another 3 hours of youtube, and probably some misc usage. It's fantastic, and I keep wishing that somebody would release another phone with a user-replaceable (and upgradeable) battery so that I could move on. I actually bought this V20 after the V30 and S9 were out specifically for the removable battery. sigh, I blame apple.
- BLanen 8y ago
  A Jevon's paradox on battery life. Hmm, yea.
empath75 8y ago
Put the battery we have now into a Nokia flip phone from the 90s. It’ll probably run for weeks.
losteric 8y ago
I think the issue is still all the background activity. My phone (moto x pure) lasts multiple days in airplane+battery saver mode. It was 30% charged after using it for GPS/maps and occasional music on a 4-day backpacking (hiking) trip.

It's was about time we moved on to the next energy-storage technology for mobile devices. I can't believe in 2018, battery is still the main issue of all flagships.

jdavis703 8y ago

Won't it always be an issue? I have a feeling they'll just put in more and better power-hungry hardware and software and we'll be back in the minimally acceptable battery life range.

function_seven 8y ago
Right. And if they don’t do that, then the phone will just get thinner. We already have incredible energy density compared to a decade ago, but that budget is used up by shaving millimeters off the thickness.
- packet_nerd 8y ago
  > used up by shaving millimeters off the thickness I wish they didn't do that, I would gladly carry around a slightly bigger phone if it had much better battery life.
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  - bdamm 8y ago
    Many phone models do have expansion options like this, even iPhones. I for one am appreciative of “low power mode” so I get to choose efficiency over app freshness.
    - function_seven 8y ago
      Yeah, but that (1) feels like the hardware equivalent of DLC, and (2) the resulting unit is much thicker than it would be if the battery were designed into the device from the start. I get why some people prefer thinness over battery life. Not all use cases are the same. Just wish that there was an option when choosing a model to go with svelte or chunky.
  - danjayh 8y ago
    I have an LG V20 with a 6700mAh battery. Goes for DAYS with moderate use, and will easily make it all day with extremely heavy use. I managed to kill it exactly once, with 4 hours of screen-on nav + steaming spotify, another 3 hours of youtube, and probably some misc usage. It's fantastic, and I keep wishing that somebody would release another phone with a user-replaceable (and upgradeable) battery so that I could move on. I actually bought this V20 after the V30 and S9 were out specifically for the removable battery. sigh, I blame apple.
BLanen 8y ago
A Jevon's paradox on battery life. Hmm, yea.

empath75 8y ago

Put the battery we have now into a Nokia flip phone from the 90s. It’ll probably run for weeks.

losteric 8y ago

I think the issue is still all the background activity. My phone (moto x pure) lasts multiple days in airplane+battery saver mode. It was 30% charged after using it for GPS/maps and occasional music on a 4-day backpacking (hiking) trip.