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the chances of them just scrapping the whole service are slim, and "GitHub disappears" seems equally as likely burning through VC cash as it does owned by Micro
by gaius 8y ago
the chances of them just scrapping the whole service are slim, and "GitHub disappears" seems equally as likely burning through VC cash as it does owned by Microsoft.
Right, the people who should really be worried are VSTS users. And GitLab users funnily enough. They are VC backed and will have to exit too, and everyone’s looking at them now. The least worst thing that could happen is bought by Atlassian and folded into Bitbucket.
And you’re completely right, it is actually pretty weird that they were never worried before when it was burning VC cash. Funded by grants, I’m not sure scientists fully understand how this works.
- freeone3000 8y agoVSTS does a lot of stuff GitHub doesn't, and has had GitHub as a source control option for a while.
- jeremy_wiebe 8y agoGitHub or just git? I thought just the latter.
- my123 8y agoActually, both. GitHub is a nice option if you want to use VSTS for CI. Note that Windows itself is in a Git repo on VSTS (os repo in the Microsoft tenant)
- earenndil 8y agoIIRC they've said they intend to keep VSTS and github as separate products.
- gaius 8y agothey intend to keep VSTS and github as separate product Still, consider Codeplex, which isn’t around anymore. I see the two merging over time, say in 5 years, and I expect the migration to be fairly painless, so I am not too worried personally, but I can see how some people might be.
- jpalomaki 8y agoIsn’t the existence of Github the reason Codeplex is no more? Github was so good alternative that it made no sense for Google and Microsoft maintain their own services geared towards open source projects. Building a viable Github competitor would not have fitted to Microsoft strategy which was back then focused on Windows.
- radicalbyte 8y agoUnlikely, they're targeting different markets. There is a place for both of them in Microsoft's portfolio.
- bonesss 8y agoMS-GitHub Enterprise would seem to address a lot of where TFS otherwise lands. Once TFS incorporates GitHub workflows and infrastructure I think anything off of that core is gonna struggle mightily. I mean... as it stands TFS struggles with mindshare, features, and engagement. While the name and marketing will persist, I think the underlying technical reality will be the continued cannibalisation of that offering by the superior model of git and its cross-language appeal.
- Applejinx 8y agoNot everything has to run by capitalist rules, least of all open source (which Git is). We live in a society and subsets of that society can set up their own rules, and are. It's more a matter of the mechanics of it all, and that part is indeed interesting. However, venture capital is not the final arbiter, any more than Microsoft is. FWIW, I have not bailed on Github and have no specific plans to. What I'll do, is back up all my repositories to physical read-only media just in case of ridiculous catastrophic scenarios: under normal circumstances, even if Github's plug got suddenly pulled as a big gotcha to open source, my local repositories would not be deleted. If I have local git repositories, I can put them elsewhere.
- seba_dos1 8y agoAll we need is for GitLab to implement a federated protocol for dealing with issues, pull requests etc. and then there's no need to worry. See https://github.com/git-federation/gitpub https://github.com/git-federation/gitpub being worked on.