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In Australia we have 'demerit points', so if you rack up enough of them, you can lose your license, which takes away your right to drive a car. If you drive wit

In Australia we have 'demerit points', so if you rack up enough of them, you can lose your license, which takes away your right to drive a car. If you drive without a license and get caught, you have no insurance and you can go to jail as it's considered contempt of court. So the fines are no big deal to the rich here, but the right to drive is incentive enough to stop being an asshat.

trumped 8y ago
there is the same system in the US and Canada... not sure if it is in all states and provinces though...
glangdale 8y ago
Actually, rich people in Sydney just paid their employees to say "oh, I was driving that car at the time". Pretty scandalous.
- narag 8y ago
  That's another good reason to forbid photo-only fines. Force police to actually stop the car. Also if you lie authorities to protect another person, it's a stronger offense than speeding. Give jail to those and few people would take the risk.
- sgt101 8y ago
  Surely that is a criminal conspiracy; most places would rate that as far more serious than a license confiscation. There was a case in the UK where a politician did this with his wife and it resulted in prison for both! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Huhne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Huhne I think that if money had changed hands and if guilty pleas hadn't been entered it would have been a longer sensor.
  - slavik81 8y ago
    Wow. That's a divorce that went rather poorly. He has an affair. They get a divorce. To get revenge, his ex-wife tells a journalist that he once cheated a speeding ticket. Investigation reveals she knows that because she helped him do it. They both go to prison. This revenge idea was planned with a lawyer/judge friend of the ex-wife. When the plan backfired, the judge falsified documents to mislead investigators. The judge got the longest sentence of the three of them and was disbarred. What a trainwreck.
- ryan-allen 8y ago
  Not even rich people do this, but I wouldn't want to be party to either side of such an arrangement. Between the cameras and tracking of phones, if someone's out to get you they can get you on fraud.
  - glangdale 8y ago
    It was in the news a while back, so I'm not sure why the skepticism. It's not super-widespread - I don't think you can just do it with any car. Maybe the rort was set up to involve a company car.
foobar1962 8y ago
In Australia, one reasonably well known business identity kept getting infringement notices from speed cameras. The car was owned by the company, and the company would never identify the driver and just paid the fine. So the driver never received the demerit points. I believe that because of this, the fines were made significantly higher for companies that did not identify the driver.

trumped 8y ago

there is the same system in the US and Canada... not sure if it is in all states and provinces though...

glangdale 8y ago

Actually, rich people in Sydney just paid their employees to say "oh, I was driving that car at the time". Pretty scandalous.

narag 8y ago
That's another good reason to forbid photo-only fines. Force police to actually stop the car. Also if you lie authorities to protect another person, it's a stronger offense than speeding. Give jail to those and few people would take the risk.
sgt101 8y ago
Surely that is a criminal conspiracy; most places would rate that as far more serious than a license confiscation. There was a case in the UK where a politician did this with his wife and it resulted in prison for both! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Huhne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Huhne I think that if money had changed hands and if guilty pleas hadn't been entered it would have been a longer sensor.
- slavik81 8y ago
  Wow. That's a divorce that went rather poorly. He has an affair. They get a divorce. To get revenge, his ex-wife tells a journalist that he once cheated a speeding ticket. Investigation reveals she knows that because she helped him do it. They both go to prison. This revenge idea was planned with a lawyer/judge friend of the ex-wife. When the plan backfired, the judge falsified documents to mislead investigators. The judge got the longest sentence of the three of them and was disbarred. What a trainwreck.
ryan-allen 8y ago
Not even rich people do this, but I wouldn't want to be party to either side of such an arrangement. Between the cameras and tracking of phones, if someone's out to get you they can get you on fraud.
- glangdale 8y ago
  It was in the news a while back, so I'm not sure why the skepticism. It's not super-widespread - I don't think you can just do it with any car. Maybe the rort was set up to involve a company car.

foobar1962 8y ago

In Australia, one reasonably well known business identity kept getting infringement notices from speed cameras. The car was owned by the company, and the company would never identify the driver and just paid the fine. So the driver never received the demerit points. I believe that because of this, the fines were made significantly higher for companies that did not identify the driver.