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If you're a 10 person company and more than 7 people are day-to-day critical you're going to have a lot of issues. When we were 8 people we had 2 parents go on

If you're a 10 person company and more than 7 people are day-to-day critical you're going to have a lot of issues. When we were 8 people we had 2 parents go on 4 months of leave (with 3 month overlap). We missed them and vacation time was a little limited, but everything was fine. Companies need to account for the fact that they're comprised of human beings that reproduce. In terms of humanity you can't get much more fundamental than reproduction.

cornholio 8y ago
> Companies need to account for the fact that they're comprised of human beings that reproduce. If think that's the point, companies do account for that, by discriminating against women, onto which the bulk of the burden of reproduction falls. Correcting this incentive structure is a prime job for government, else literally nothing can exist in few generations.
- saudioger 8y ago
  I meant that companies need to account for it as an inevitable expense, avoiding it is completely unethical and if someone's party to that decision making process they need to take a good look at themselves.
  - cornholio 8y ago
    By the same token, people fall ill, grow old, and eventually die. The ethical company that covers all those expense for an indefinite duration for it's employees will go bankrupt in the face of competitors that do not. If the government does not intervene to force all companies to shoulder the cost on behalf of the society and distribute the costs to everyone else through prices, then it's hard to say it's unethical for a company not to offer free health care, retirement, disability, life and funeral insurance to each and every current or former employee.
    - saudioger 8y ago
      Workers comp, retirement funds, health insurance, and life insurance. Our company contributes all of those in some way... to not cover birth seems a bit silly by comparison.

cornholio 8y ago

> Companies need to account for the fact that they're comprised of human beings that reproduce. If think that's the point, companies do account for that, by discriminating against women, onto which the bulk of the burden of reproduction falls. Correcting this incentive structure is a prime job for government, else literally nothing can exist in few generations.

saudioger 8y ago
I meant that companies need to account for it as an inevitable expense, avoiding it is completely unethical and if someone's party to that decision making process they need to take a good look at themselves.
- cornholio 8y ago
  By the same token, people fall ill, grow old, and eventually die. The ethical company that covers all those expense for an indefinite duration for it's employees will go bankrupt in the face of competitors that do not. If the government does not intervene to force all companies to shoulder the cost on behalf of the society and distribute the costs to everyone else through prices, then it's hard to say it's unethical for a company not to offer free health care, retirement, disability, life and funeral insurance to each and every current or former employee.
  - saudioger 8y ago
    Workers comp, retirement funds, health insurance, and life insurance. Our company contributes all of those in some way... to not cover birth seems a bit silly by comparison.