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Martin Shkreli is in prison now - he deserves it, though he was guilty of _far_ less then Elizabeth Holmes. Holmes should already be in prison for massive frau

Martin Shkreli is in prison now - he deserves it, though he was guilty of _far_ less then Elizabeth Holmes. Holmes should already be in prison for massive fraud. The fact she is a female and mimicked Jobs seems to have saved her so far though.

mikeryan 8y ago
That’s an interesting read on what Shkreli did vs Holmes. At least Holmes “victims” AFAIK were mostly rich folks losing other people’s money they’re gambling with and should have known better. Shkreli fleeced normal folks just looking to get their day meds.
- tdurden 8y ago
  Holmes fleeced normal folks too by knowingly giving them inaccurate test results, which in some cases could lead to death.
- sosa2k 8y ago
  Shkreli's crimes had nothing to do with the drug prices. Unless you think the jury/judge was biased due to it.
- the_narrator 8y ago
  > At least Holmes “victims” AFAIK were mostly rich folks why would that make it any better?
  - URSpider94 8y ago
    I think the argument is that stealing $1 million from a billionaire could be considered ethically less bad than stealing $10,000 from someone who is $50,000 in debt due to medical bills. The second theft will have much more impact on the victim than the first.
    - the_narrator 8y ago
      > The second theft will have much more impact on the victim than the first. That hardly makes it OK though, Are you saying that the first case doesn't deserve the same punishment as the second?
      - mikeryan 8y ago
        I can’t speak for anyone else but Shkreli was convicted for Securities fraud, Holmes charged wire fraud. The court cases are pretty much moot. They will likely have similar outcomes. Morally and Ethically however I’d consider Shkreli guilty of far more.
    - asdsa5325 8y ago
      But it's still irrelevant because his crimes were also against rich investors, and not at all related to raising the price of medication (which is 100% legal).
- smallgovt 8y ago
  Do some research into the actual facts around Shkreli and you'll find that he didn't fleece 'normal folks'. His profits came directly from large insurance firms.
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mikeryan 8y ago

That’s an interesting read on what Shkreli did vs Holmes. At least Holmes “victims” AFAIK were mostly rich folks losing other people’s money they’re gambling with and should have known better. Shkreli fleeced normal folks just looking to get their day meds.

tdurden 8y ago
Holmes fleeced normal folks too by knowingly giving them inaccurate test results, which in some cases could lead to death.
sosa2k 8y ago
Shkreli's crimes had nothing to do with the drug prices. Unless you think the jury/judge was biased due to it.
the_narrator 8y ago
> At least Holmes “victims” AFAIK were mostly rich folks why would that make it any better?
- URSpider94 8y ago
  I think the argument is that stealing $1 million from a billionaire could be considered ethically less bad than stealing $10,000 from someone who is $50,000 in debt due to medical bills. The second theft will have much more impact on the victim than the first.
  - the_narrator 8y ago
    > The second theft will have much more impact on the victim than the first. That hardly makes it OK though, Are you saying that the first case doesn't deserve the same punishment as the second?
    - mikeryan 8y ago
      I can’t speak for anyone else but Shkreli was convicted for Securities fraud, Holmes charged wire fraud. The court cases are pretty much moot. They will likely have similar outcomes. Morally and Ethically however I’d consider Shkreli guilty of far more.
  - asdsa5325 8y ago
    But it's still irrelevant because his crimes were also against rich investors, and not at all related to raising the price of medication (which is 100% legal).
smallgovt 8y ago
Do some research into the actual facts around Shkreli and you'll find that he didn't fleece 'normal folks'. His profits came directly from large insurance firms.

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