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> One of the solutions to this is matching paternity leave. A better solution would just unpaid parental leave for both sexes, with a stipend paid for by the g

> One of the solutions to this is matching paternity leave. A better solution would just unpaid parental leave for both sexes, with a stipend paid for by the government. The idea of paying people some percentage of their salary while on parental leave is an incredibly regressive policy and should be banned.

growlist 8y ago
A better solution would be that we don't make work the be all and end all of our short lives.
rocqua 8y ago
How is it regressive that compensation during parental leave depends on salary? Without that, women higher in the career ladder are disincentivized from taking maternity leave. Moreover, you might even get women who earn more on leave than during the job, which is simply weird.
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- Alex3917 8y ago
  > How is it regressive that compensation during parental leave depends on salary? People who make more money for working make more money for not working. That's literally the definition of regressive. To quote Wikipedia: "In terms of individual income and wealth, a regressive tax imposes a greater burden (relative to resources) on the poor than on the rich: there is an inverse relationship between the tax rate and the taxpayer's ability to pay, as measured by assets, consumption, or income."
  - Buge 8y ago
    If it's a fixed based on your salary, it would be neither regressive, nor progressive. It would be flat. And that's assuming the government takes the money from thin air. If the government gets the money via a progressive tax, then distributes it in a flat manner, it's overall a progressive tax.
    - cortesoft 8y ago
      I think you are misunderstanding what a regressive tax is. A tax can be flat AND regressive (in fact, those are usually the kind that are). It is about the BURDEN of the tax being unequal, not the dollar amount. For example, a speeding ticket is a regressive system, because a $200 dollar ticket is a lot more damaging to a poor person than a rich person.
      - Buge 8y ago
        By "flat" I mean a fixed percent of your income. A fixed $200 isn't a flat tax, because it's not a fixed percent of your income. Yes, apparently-flat taxes can sometimes be regressive, for example a flat sales tax can be somewhat regressive because poor people spend a higher percent of their income compared to rich people. But this thread isn't about sales tax, so I don't think the flat tax in this situation is regressive.
krschultz 8y ago
We currently let companies have wide leeway in what they negotiate for compensation with their employees (and contractors). But the problem that you think deserves to be banned is that some companies pay the people on parental leave? Man do I have bad news for you, my company gives people bonuses when they have children.

growlist 8y ago

A better solution would be that we don't make work the be all and end all of our short lives.

rocqua 8y ago

How is it regressive that compensation during parental leave depends on salary? Without that, women higher in the career ladder are disincentivized from taking maternity leave. Moreover, you might even get women who earn more on leave than during the job, which is simply weird.

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Alex3917 8y ago
> How is it regressive that compensation during parental leave depends on salary? People who make more money for working make more money for not working. That's literally the definition of regressive. To quote Wikipedia: "In terms of individual income and wealth, a regressive tax imposes a greater burden (relative to resources) on the poor than on the rich: there is an inverse relationship between the tax rate and the taxpayer's ability to pay, as measured by assets, consumption, or income."
- Buge 8y ago
  If it's a fixed based on your salary, it would be neither regressive, nor progressive. It would be flat. And that's assuming the government takes the money from thin air. If the government gets the money via a progressive tax, then distributes it in a flat manner, it's overall a progressive tax.
  - cortesoft 8y ago
    I think you are misunderstanding what a regressive tax is. A tax can be flat AND regressive (in fact, those are usually the kind that are). It is about the BURDEN of the tax being unequal, not the dollar amount. For example, a speeding ticket is a regressive system, because a $200 dollar ticket is a lot more damaging to a poor person than a rich person.
    - Buge 8y ago
      By "flat" I mean a fixed percent of your income. A fixed $200 isn't a flat tax, because it's not a fixed percent of your income. Yes, apparently-flat taxes can sometimes be regressive, for example a flat sales tax can be somewhat regressive because poor people spend a higher percent of their income compared to rich people. But this thread isn't about sales tax, so I don't think the flat tax in this situation is regressive.

krschultz 8y ago

We currently let companies have wide leeway in what they negotiate for compensation with their employees (and contractors). But the problem that you think deserves to be banned is that some companies pay the people on parental leave? Man do I have bad news for you, my company gives people bonuses when they have children.