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I am in the middle of starting a business around a product that will get slammed by this. I was going to import the components and have the boards built here.(

• NDizzle 8y ago
  * assembled in the USA.
• kayfox 8y ago
  Yeah, I'm worried because a nonprofit I'm working for recently decided to manufacture a convention badge in Ohio rather than China because it was barely economically feasible... with this tariff change it may eat too far into our donations.
  • delbel 8y ago
    It would be unfortunate if your non-profit had to switch to just "Hello, I am ..." name tags.
    • nickpeterson 8y ago
      Just an aside, I used to work at a custom label printing place (in Ohio even, funny that), which often got convention orders because they had holograms on them. I think security around conventions can be concern (you don't want someone doctoring a phony badge and walking into a convention with a few thousand people.
• rgbrenner 8y ago
  You can't use the "Made in the USA" label like that anyway. It must be all or virtually all made in the USA. At best you could label it "Made in USA from Imported Parts" or "Assembled in USA." https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/complying-made-usa-standard https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/com...
  • Washuu 8y ago
    My intention was that the casing and PCBs would be made in the USA. The only China sourced parts would be the PCB components.(Not finalized/assembled PCBs.) As far as I know that would qualify for "Made in the USA".
    • lozenge 8y ago
      By that reasoning a frozen meal could say "made in the USA" meaning the cardboard box was made in the USA.
      • Washuu 8y ago
        * Case (Plastic) - USA Origin * PCB (Milled, Drilled, Components Soldered) - USA Origin * Connectors - USA Origin * Firmware - USA Origin * PCB Components (Items affected by the tariffs) - China or Otherwise As far as I know that would qualify as "Made in the USA" or at the minimum "Assembled in the USA". Over 75% of the components have USA origins and the final transformative step is done in the USA. Please note that I am not trying to be deceptive in my future product's labeling.(6+ months until launch.) However, with political changes like these tariffs they are something that can basically change my stance on how I decide to source in the USA.
        • gxs 8y ago
          I think he said that at best you could say "Assembled in the USA", don't think he was arguing that piece of it.
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    • emilfihlman 8y ago
      You are 100% correct in this. You can call your device just fine as made in the USA even if your passives, ICs and so on come from elsewhere. The other commenters don't understand anything about electronics.
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• EpicEng 8y ago
  You mean "assembled in the USA"?
• russellbrandom 8y ago
  Sorry to hear you're getting hit by this! I wrote the Verge piece, and would love to talk to you about how this is affecting your business plans. Drop me a line at russell@theverge.com.
• nickthegreek 8y ago
  I think 'Designed & Built in the USA' or 'Designed & Assembled in the USA' might be better nomenclature.
• nodesocket 8y ago
  > "get slammed by this..." Wait, a second... Do you really know this? Have your supplier prices already increased? By how much on average of each imported component? What's the total increase per unit shipped?
• azinman2 8y ago
  I don’t fully understand he tariffs, but wouldn’t you be subject to 25% tariff anyway if it was made in China?
• dqpb 8y ago
  It sounds like you were just lying in the first place about it being made in America.
  • unholythree 8y ago
    Sounds like by your absurd standards the B-2 bomber wouldn't qualify as being made in America.
• jessaustin 8y ago
  Are we to infer that BOM is the big cost for you, even though you're doing all the manufacture in USA? That seems unlikely to me, based on what I've heard about electronics manufacturing.