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"Alumni interviewers give Asian-Americans personal ratings comparable to those of whites. But the admissions office gives them the worst scores of any racial gr

"Alumni interviewers give Asian-Americans personal ratings comparable to those of whites. But the admissions office gives them the worst scores of any racial group, often without even meeting them, according to Prof. Arcidiacono." I can't imagine the feeling of working so hard through elementary school, middle school, and high school to get into an Ivy League school, only for an admissions panel to declare me "low in personality" or too introverted. Harvard's admission criteria seem heavily based on outdated stereotypes of what makes an individual successful. I question if Ivy League schools are choosing the best applicants and by extension, how much prestige Ivy League degrees really deserve.

klipt 8y ago
America: "we only want highly skilled, highly educated immigrants." Also America: "these immigrants' children are too skilled and educated, and it's upsetting our racial quotas. We have to discriminate against them." America - you can work here, but don't dare dream that your children will be treated equally if you're from Asia. Of course, if you're from Europe your children will be lumped into the white demographic. If you're from Africa, your children may even benefit from affirmative action meant for the descendants of American slaves. Yay racial profiling!
- Consultant32452 8y ago
  Harvard: there's more diversity between the races than within them.
akhilcacharya 8y ago
>I can't imagine the feeling of working so hard through elementary school, middle school, and high school to get into an Ivy League school, only for an admissions panel to declare me "low in personality" or too introverted. And yet, hundreds still get in. I went to a public school, not elite in the least, but I also worked hard throughout my K12 education like the folks you mention - and I’ll be honest, this continual focus on the tiny percentage of folks that didn’t get into Harvard but got into institutions of equivalent pedigree (one of the plaintiffs in an earlier NYT article goes to Duke) while my classmates have to struggle with a lack of opportunity and poor perceptions as a result of a lack of pedigree, even if they are hard working and talented. To me, it feels like a slap in the face. Am I wrong in thinking this?
- eric-hu 8y ago
  You're not wrong. It's an insightful observation. It's a meritocratic system, but with fuzzy rules around the merits for reward. There are few people I know whose parents would have treated them according "the most performant of you will get the best of our resources. Ready, set go.", instead of say, trying to help each child grow as much as they need.

klipt 8y ago

America: "we only want highly skilled, highly educated immigrants." Also America: "these immigrants' children are too skilled and educated, and it's upsetting our racial quotas. We have to discriminate against them." America - you can work here, but don't dare dream that your children will be treated equally if you're from Asia. Of course, if you're from Europe your children will be lumped into the white demographic. If you're from Africa, your children may even benefit from affirmative action meant for the descendants of American slaves. Yay racial profiling!

Consultant32452 8y ago
Harvard: there's more diversity between the races than within them.

akhilcacharya 8y ago

>I can't imagine the feeling of working so hard through elementary school, middle school, and high school to get into an Ivy League school, only for an admissions panel to declare me "low in personality" or too introverted. And yet, hundreds still get in. I went to a public school, not elite in the least, but I also worked hard throughout my K12 education like the folks you mention - and I’ll be honest, this continual focus on the tiny percentage of folks that didn’t get into Harvard but got into institutions of equivalent pedigree (one of the plaintiffs in an earlier NYT article goes to Duke) while my classmates have to struggle with a lack of opportunity and poor perceptions as a result of a lack of pedigree, even if they are hard working and talented. To me, it feels like a slap in the face. Am I wrong in thinking this?

eric-hu 8y ago
You're not wrong. It's an insightful observation. It's a meritocratic system, but with fuzzy rules around the merits for reward. There are few people I know whose parents would have treated them according "the most performant of you will get the best of our resources. Ready, set go.", instead of say, trying to help each child grow as much as they need.