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I love cyberpunk. Essential ingredients are: - hostile AI - Corporations and Government surveilance and going dark - DNA / implant chips / biometric border c

I love cyberpunk. Essential ingredients are: - hostile AI - Corporations and Government surveilance and going dark - DNA / implant chips / biometric border controls - Borders protected by armed drones / robots - Underground Identities markets

drakonka 8y ago
I think hostile AI isn't really an essential ingredient in cyberpunk for me, but some sort of AI, and often coupled with some sort of conflict between whether the AI is hostile or benevolent. I associate cyberpunk very much with the grey area between man and machine.
- auslander 8y ago
  AI that decides if you are not a good fit for or a threat to society. And kicks off all kinds of threat control measures. Black Mirror S03E01.
  - klez 8y ago
    Did we see a different version of the episode? In Nosedive your score is decided by people, not by AI. There's no hint of AI in the whole episode.
    - auslander 8y ago
      It was AI :) People's scores were just another source of data, used together with throves of banking, social, medical, criminal, telecom datasets.
      - klez 8y ago
        I'll have to rewatch it. Not that I would mind :)
  - KevanM 8y ago
    I wouldn't mind a Nosedive redux episode where you discover she is part of an experiment by an AI to see how quickly people can drop off and keep them bumping along the bottom of society. Sort of social Flappy Bird.
pjonesdotca 8y ago
Well...Wintermute wasn't essentially hostile to humanity - it just had it's own goals. I find that way more cyberpunk than a dystopian AI bent on humanity's destruction.
GuB-42 8y ago
From my understanding of cyberpunk, AI isn't really an essential ingredient. Cyberpunk feels very human. AIs are either of the "weak" kind, like a robot guard being able to recognize and attack intruders but not much more, or the indistinguishable-from-human kind of Blade Runner replicants. The intelligent but definitely not human kind like HAL from 2001. The kind I tend to think of when talking about AI-based stories don't seem to be that common in the cyberpunk genre. We do see a lot of things like mind uploading, brain augmentation, people losing their humanity to technology, etc... but it is always centered on the human mind.
DanBC 8y ago
Does hostile AI feature in many of the Mirrorshades stories?

drakonka 8y ago

I think hostile AI isn't really an essential ingredient in cyberpunk for me, but some sort of AI, and often coupled with some sort of conflict between whether the AI is hostile or benevolent. I associate cyberpunk very much with the grey area between man and machine.

auslander 8y ago
AI that decides if you are not a good fit for or a threat to society. And kicks off all kinds of threat control measures. Black Mirror S03E01.
- klez 8y ago
  Did we see a different version of the episode? In Nosedive your score is decided by people, not by AI. There's no hint of AI in the whole episode.
  - auslander 8y ago
    It was AI :) People's scores were just another source of data, used together with throves of banking, social, medical, criminal, telecom datasets.
    - klez 8y ago
      I'll have to rewatch it. Not that I would mind :)
- KevanM 8y ago
  I wouldn't mind a Nosedive redux episode where you discover she is part of an experiment by an AI to see how quickly people can drop off and keep them bumping along the bottom of society. Sort of social Flappy Bird.

pjonesdotca 8y ago

Well...Wintermute wasn't essentially hostile to humanity - it just had it's own goals. I find that way more cyberpunk than a dystopian AI bent on humanity's destruction.

GuB-42 8y ago

From my understanding of cyberpunk, AI isn't really an essential ingredient. Cyberpunk feels very human. AIs are either of the "weak" kind, like a robot guard being able to recognize and attack intruders but not much more, or the indistinguishable-from-human kind of Blade Runner replicants. The intelligent but definitely not human kind like HAL from 2001. The kind I tend to think of when talking about AI-based stories don't seem to be that common in the cyberpunk genre. We do see a lot of things like mind uploading, brain augmentation, people losing their humanity to technology, etc... but it is always centered on the human mind.

DanBC 8y ago

Does hostile AI feature in many of the Mirrorshades stories?