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>They control the iOS-based world in a way they could never control "computers". They're trying to get as many people as they can into their new Disneyland-ish

>They control the iOS-based world in a way they could never control "computers". They're trying to get as many people as they can into their new Disneyland-ish ecosystem, where everything you do is approved and monitored and everything you buy is bought through them. This sounds so dystopic. I hope that being able to publish software without having to bow to a gatekeeper won't become a thing of the past.

SiVal 8y ago
Not just "publishing" software but even writing private software for your own, and your friends' & families', devices is something we can't take for granted. For personal and (private) family use, I gave up on trying to do native apps for iPhone and decided to learn how to do whatever was possible with web apps. And if iOS Safari (Apple's "gatekeeper" of last resort) falls too far behind, I'll take myself and the whole gang I serve as "IT installer, fixer, and advisor" for right out of Apple land.
- fingerlocks 8y ago
  A hundred bucks a year and put your friends and family on TestFlight. Completely private, no publishing required.
pjmlp 8y ago
Then better switch to a free UNIX clone. As Mojave is getting iOS security model, Windows is merging the Win32 into UWP, ChromeOS and Android are turning into one OS, and who knows what they would do with Fucshia.
- sandbags 8y ago
  What do you mean by “Mojave is getting iOS security model”. What I’ve seen announced is that, as of 10.14, the system will ask the user when an app first wants access to, e.g., microphone or camera. Do you mean something else?
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Is a bit more than that. macOS is getting a new security runtime, the scope of Gatekeeper will be expanded, entitlements will be required for all security critical OS areas, application signing and registration even for apps distributed outside the store. For Mojave, it will still be opt-in, later versions depends on how it will received. "Your Apps and the Future of macOS Security" https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2018/702/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2018/702/

SiVal 8y ago

Not just "publishing" software but even writing private software for your own, and your friends' & families', devices is something we can't take for granted. For personal and (private) family use, I gave up on trying to do native apps for iPhone and decided to learn how to do whatever was possible with web apps. And if iOS Safari (Apple's "gatekeeper" of last resort) falls too far behind, I'll take myself and the whole gang I serve as "IT installer, fixer, and advisor" for right out of Apple land.

fingerlocks 8y ago
A hundred bucks a year and put your friends and family on TestFlight. Completely private, no publishing required.

pjmlp 8y ago

Then better switch to a free UNIX clone. As Mojave is getting iOS security model, Windows is merging the Win32 into UWP, ChromeOS and Android are turning into one OS, and who knows what they would do with Fucshia.

sandbags 8y ago
What do you mean by “Mojave is getting iOS security model”. What I’ve seen announced is that, as of 10.14, the system will ask the user when an app first wants access to, e.g., microphone or camera. Do you mean something else?
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Is a bit more than that. macOS is getting a new security runtime, the scope of Gatekeeper will be expanded, entitlements will be required for all security critical OS areas, application signing and registration even for apps distributed outside the store. For Mojave, it will still be opt-in, later versions depends on how it will received. "Your Apps and the Future of macOS Security" https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2018/702/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2018/702/