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Do you remember hiw bad YouTube comments have been? And it's significantly better lately? That happened due to ML. Not everyone is out there to use ML for nef

Do you remember hiw bad YouTube comments have been? And it's significantly better lately? That happened due to ML. Not everyone is out there to use ML for nefarious purpose. And there are multiple use cases for ML.

bthrm 8y ago
How are yt comments any better now?
- dirkgently 8y ago
  It's not perfect, but it's way better. The spam is mostly gone. Inane comments are lower in priority.
- burkaman 8y ago
  They are now mostly real people organically being morons, as opposed to mostly bots spamming other channels and a bunch of stick figure chain mail.
- bitmapbrother 8y ago
  In addition to ML a lot of people are reporting offensive comments. If you care about your account then you should perhaps think twice.
dominotw 8y ago
oh wow you are right. I actually participate in youtube comments now, i used to completely ignore them. Thats a beautiful example of ML.
blauditore 8y ago
At least for music videos, comments are still pretty shitty. It feels like more than half of them are one of the following patterns: - "Like if you're watching in June 2018?" [2k upvotes] - "Most underrated artist of our time" [5k upvotes] - "Wow, mad respect for <artist>" (written by verified account by other artist trying to promote their own content)
- rekshaw 8y ago
  28 people hate don't appreciate art!!1 [video has 28 dislikes]
  - jjoonathan 8y ago
    [video has 28 dislikes] 7 people are morons!!! 9 people are sad they have no taste in music111 What is wrong with the 13 downvotes? WHHHHHHHHYYYYYY don't 16 people have any taste? Well it's obvious that 18 people don't have any taste. 21 downvotes can suck it! 22 people are morons!!! WTF, 24 downvotes? There should be negative downvotes! 25 people are morons!!! Well I see Hitler and his 26 closest friends have seen this video! 27 people are morons!!! 28 people hate don't appreciate art!!1
- onion2k 8y ago
  Why are those bad comments? The first one is a bit ridiculous, but the others are fine. They're comments. They're not discussion points. YouTube isn't a forum or a social network. There's nothing compelling people to leave intelligent or even constructive points. The comment section is for people to note what they think. That's it. When people say these sorts of things are bad I think it's because their expectations and understanding of a comments section are wrong.
  - blauditore 8y ago
    It's just super repetitive, and actually good and original comments get buried because they don't match the hivemind. Of course, it's a question of taste what comments should be more visible. If the community actually prefers reading the same stuff over and over again, then the current state is probably justified, and it's just a moronic community.
- golergka 8y ago
  I wonder, what comments are you expecting under pop music videos? Deep discussion about chord progressions or lyrics themes?
- 8y ago
zaarn 8y ago
>Do you remember hiw bad YouTube comments have been? Yes >And it's significantly better lately? It's gotten worse and a few youtubers I follow have simply disabled it in recent time (less than 1 month ago was the most recent one) Normal conversation on youtube is barely possible since the algorithm randomly decides to not notify me of responses anymore or removes entire comments from my view that other people reference and I'm left wondering what is going on. The only good thing about youtube comments is that I can remove them easily with a plugin.
- mgkimsal 8y ago
  > Normal conversation on youtube is barely possible It's also interface. I've been notified of replies to comments, click the notification, and I'm not taken to the reply. This happens to me on mobile enough that I've basically just given up trying to engage for most things on youtube.
  - overcast 8y ago
    Happens on the desktop too. It's impossible to respond or follow up to anything on there. You'll get notified of unrelated comments, you're not able to respond to a specific person, everything is just in one parent thread. I've since blocked comments from even displaying.
oblio 8y ago
"Significantly better" is a stretch. The comments got much better after Youtube added user ratings. Hardly "ML". I'm guessing they added ML later, but I haven't noticed any difference, to be honest... And by "much better" I mean they went from amoeba level to early multi-cellular organism :)
- azernik 8y ago
  They are likely using those user ratings to build a model of what kind of comments bad users make.
  - oblio 8y ago
    Most of the bang for their buck was when they used a plain old sorting of those ratings. That already hid a lot of the sludge. The ML stuff is just a minor optimization compared to that. Everything is just my opinion, of course, they're probably following a bunch of metrics I don't have access to and which could prove that the ML effort was worth it.

bthrm 8y ago

How are yt comments any better now?

dirkgently 8y ago
It's not perfect, but it's way better. The spam is mostly gone. Inane comments are lower in priority.
burkaman 8y ago
They are now mostly real people organically being morons, as opposed to mostly bots spamming other channels and a bunch of stick figure chain mail.
bitmapbrother 8y ago
In addition to ML a lot of people are reporting offensive comments. If you care about your account then you should perhaps think twice.

dominotw 8y ago

oh wow you are right. I actually participate in youtube comments now, i used to completely ignore them. Thats a beautiful example of ML.

blauditore 8y ago

At least for music videos, comments are still pretty shitty. It feels like more than half of them are one of the following patterns: - "Like if you're watching in June 2018?" [2k upvotes] - "Most underrated artist of our time" [5k upvotes] - "Wow, mad respect for <artist>" (written by verified account by other artist trying to promote their own content)

rekshaw 8y ago
28 people hate don't appreciate art!!1 [video has 28 dislikes]
- jjoonathan 8y ago
  [video has 28 dislikes] 7 people are morons!!! 9 people are sad they have no taste in music111 What is wrong with the 13 downvotes? WHHHHHHHHYYYYYY don't 16 people have any taste? Well it's obvious that 18 people don't have any taste. 21 downvotes can suck it! 22 people are morons!!! WTF, 24 downvotes? There should be negative downvotes! 25 people are morons!!! Well I see Hitler and his 26 closest friends have seen this video! 27 people are morons!!! 28 people hate don't appreciate art!!1
onion2k 8y ago
Why are those bad comments? The first one is a bit ridiculous, but the others are fine. They're comments. They're not discussion points. YouTube isn't a forum or a social network. There's nothing compelling people to leave intelligent or even constructive points. The comment section is for people to note what they think. That's it. When people say these sorts of things are bad I think it's because their expectations and understanding of a comments section are wrong.
- blauditore 8y ago
  It's just super repetitive, and actually good and original comments get buried because they don't match the hivemind. Of course, it's a question of taste what comments should be more visible. If the community actually prefers reading the same stuff over and over again, then the current state is probably justified, and it's just a moronic community.
golergka 8y ago
I wonder, what comments are you expecting under pop music videos? Deep discussion about chord progressions or lyrics themes?
8y ago

zaarn 8y ago

>Do you remember hiw bad YouTube comments have been? Yes >And it's significantly better lately? It's gotten worse and a few youtubers I follow have simply disabled it in recent time (less than 1 month ago was the most recent one) Normal conversation on youtube is barely possible since the algorithm randomly decides to not notify me of responses anymore or removes entire comments from my view that other people reference and I'm left wondering what is going on. The only good thing about youtube comments is that I can remove them easily with a plugin.

mgkimsal 8y ago
> Normal conversation on youtube is barely possible It's also interface. I've been notified of replies to comments, click the notification, and I'm not taken to the reply. This happens to me on mobile enough that I've basically just given up trying to engage for most things on youtube.
- overcast 8y ago
  Happens on the desktop too. It's impossible to respond or follow up to anything on there. You'll get notified of unrelated comments, you're not able to respond to a specific person, everything is just in one parent thread. I've since blocked comments from even displaying.

oblio 8y ago

"Significantly better" is a stretch. The comments got much better after Youtube added user ratings. Hardly "ML". I'm guessing they added ML later, but I haven't noticed any difference, to be honest... And by "much better" I mean they went from amoeba level to early multi-cellular organism :)

azernik 8y ago
They are likely using those user ratings to build a model of what kind of comments bad users make.
- oblio 8y ago
  Most of the bang for their buck was when they used a plain old sorting of those ratings. That already hid a lot of the sludge. The ML stuff is just a minor optimization compared to that. Everything is just my opinion, of course, they're probably following a bunch of metrics I don't have access to and which could prove that the ML effort was worth it.