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This seems to dissuade some of the rumors on HN about React Native not being supported by Facebook.
by zitterbewegung 8y ago
This seems to dissuade some of the rumors on HN about React Native not being supported by Facebook.
- bnt 8y agoSounds more like a quick response to the news that Microsoft is building Office on RN.
- dabockster 8y agoThey already converted Skype to RN, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did that. That would also be the day that I stop using MS Office as my go-to.
- reimertz 8y agoWhy would you stop using it just because the migrate over to RN?
- kuschku 8y agoDo you know why LibreOffice moved away from Java? Because the performance was just not good enough. They had custom, native UI while the backend was running in Java. And it just wasn't fast enough. Even when hot, throughput and latency weren't good enough. So, they started moving to C++ as much as possible, as fast as possible. By now you can run Writer without Java at all. Current JS runtimes are all slower than HotSpot. Yet somehow we're to believe that doing the exact same mistake again will work better this time? It'll still end up being slow and a memory hog. Moore's law is dead. RAM is more expensive than at any other point in almost 10 years. You can't just throw abstractions at everything at the cost of performance anymore, expecting the hardware to catch up.
- pjmlp 8y agoAnd even Java is adding AOT and value types as a way to increase the performance. Somehow I got the feeling that MSFT has been invaded by JavaScript developers.
- geodel 8y agoOh yes. I won't be surprised if VS Code team to be even bigger than their money making products.
- megaman22 8y agoA little sad, if it deemphasizes .net. I hope the Core transition doesn't turn into a boondoggle, though I'm afraid; it's taking a long time to reach parity with where the full framework was. The history of major language rewrites is not overly encouraging. Working in C# on .net 4.5-4.7 is such a tremendously productive platform.
- pjmlp 8y agoBUILD 2018 was full of .NET goodies, including .NET Core 3.0 roadmap with Forms/WPF/UWP/XAMLDirect support as the main goal. It appears it is the usual political issues between Microsoft divisions, which I thought had gotten better after all the re-organizations that took place. I wouldn't be surprised if this JavaScript everywhere wasn't yet another way Microsoft is trying to appear cool among the Google devotees crowd, like how they are jumping in PWAs as well.
- tzahola 8y agoInterestingly this coincides with them slowly becoming irrelevant in all areas.
- pjmlp 8y agoSomehow you lost me there. Microsoft is as relevant as ever outside SV coffee shops.
- chrshawkes 8y agoThat's a ridiculous thing to say considering 50% of dev's are writing on Microsoft stacks and the company pulls in over 20 billion in actual profit each year.
- Klonoar 8y agoProooobably moreso a response to the Twitter drama from a few days ago where people were claiming that Facebook was moving away from RN... especially considering the author was in that thread.
- spicyj 8y agoWasn't really a response to either actually. :)
- Klonoar 8y agoThen I stand corrected. The view from 5000 feet seemed that way, but happy to be wrong. :)
- reimertz 8y agoCould you please send an RN-invested soul like myself a link to said drama? :)
- avtar 8y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17216628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17216628
- tmpz22 8y agoIf they can pull that off AND VS code being as performant on electron as it is I will be damn impressed.
- acemarke 8y agoThere's also been a number of complaints from RN users lately that the RN team hasn't been communicating well, that the roadmap is unclear, etc. This at least gives an indication that RN is being actively developed and what they're working on.
- threeseed 8y agoAlso Flutter is getting a lot of traction right now. The development experience is incredible (probably why Facebook mentioned instant reload), lots of companies are trying it out e.g. Evernote and the community is buzzing with new plugins. Plus it doesn't wrap native components so the core of it just works cross-platform.
- com2kid 8y agoI really love what I see of Flutter, but JSX, for now, has me won over. I've love a JSX like tool for Flutter, especially since JSX is just syntactic sugar over a c-like syntax.
- filleduchaos 8y agoI know someone started a DSX at some point. Not sure what happened with that.
- danabramov 8y agoReact Native had hot reloading a year before Flutter was announced. Not to take anything away from Flutter (I heard it's great!) Personally I'm rooting for all declarative UI libraries and platforms, and I'm very excited Flutter is getting traction.
- com2kid 8y agoReact Native's hot loading is..... eh. The wrong type of typo can take down the entire app. Other typos it can recover from. Trying to change redux components just doesn't work. All in all it isn't too hard to fool RN's hot loading. I'd also note that hot loading is turned off by default for RN! I can see why, having it on I have to know what types of things I can use it with and what types of changes will need a full relaunch. Let's not even get into the "reload" button and what that may or may not do. (Note: I am using expo, so I have an additional layer of bugs and abstraction on top, having to force close Expo on the phone is way too common in my experience)
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