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To the extent that "contrarian", "meta-contrarian", "meta-meta-contrarian", etc. people spread themselves over the ideological map, it becomes difficult to win
by waterhouse 16y ago
To the extent that "contrarian", "meta-contrarian", "meta-meta-contrarian", etc. people spread themselves over the ideological map, it becomes difficult to win favor by adopting a particular viewpoint (e.g. you'll get the contrarians and the meta-meta-meta-contrarians, but you'll piss off the meta-contrarians and slightly alienate the uneducated and the meta-meta-contrarians), and in the proximate future, people will adopt viewpoints more for other reasons--hopefully, because they care about the issue and have given it serious thought.
Once the zero-sum game of winning relative favor becomes saturated with fierce competition, new people will be discouraged from entering it, and will spend their effort on more productive things.
Also, once you notice a bunch of similar people (meta^n-contrarians) who argue several different sides of an issue, you stop thinking of each side as being, e.g., "traditional country folk vs. college students"; the ideas become dissociated from groups of people, and your opinion of an idea becomes dissociated from your opinion of a group. All you have to go on is the shape of the idea itself, which, I think, is the best way to approach ideas if you're searching for truth.
A while ago, someone posted the story "Rent a White Guy", which demonstrated how some clever Japanese companies took advantage of their potential clients' or investors' prejudice towards white CEOs by "renting" a white guy to act like a top executive for the duration of the company's presentation. I thought this was a good thing, because prejudiced investors who found out about tricks like this would have to stop bothering about the issue with future companies, unless they put a fair amount of effort into investigating whether the real CEO was in fact white. This would make things better for naive Japanese companies who didn't even consider the issue and just had their (Japanese) CEO do the presentation; and it would reduce the advantage of companies who did have white CEOs. I think this is all to the good.
For people who do real work and just can't be bothered to think about putting on peacock feathers, hardcore hipster fakers are friends and protectors. They make it harder for civilians to tell the difference between a "hip" guy who deliberately dresses unfashionably and a guy who dresses unfashionably because he doesn't think about how he dresses, he thinks about other things. This makes it easier to be a nerd (defined as someone who can't be bothered to do things because they are fashionable). I, for one, thoroughly approve of these people.
- Psyonic 16y agoYour ideas about the white fake CEO's make sense, but I'm not so sure about the hipsters. The problem there is even though hipsters do dress "unfashionably", they always do it in a way thats different than those who aren't trying at all. In other words, most people don't have trouble distinguishing the two.