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At this stage, I'm convinced Apple have forgotten how to make Pro computers.

wilsonnb2 8y ago
You can buy an iMac Pro with an 18 core Xeon, 128GB ECC RAM, 4TB SSD, and Vega 64 graphics. If that's not a pro computer, then I'm not sure what is.
- blacksmith_tb 8y ago
  Nice specs, but you can't upgrade the SSDs, RAM is possible but breaks warranty, can't upgrade the soldered GPU, and it's unclear if the CPU is actually upgrade-able. So I would call it disappointing, as a 'Professional' product.
  - rbanffy 8y ago
    It's a professional tool. When the GPU is too slow or I need more than than 18 cores or 128 GB of RAM, I'll just buy a new one. I'm pretty sure that won't happen in less than 5 years. As for storage, I'd be crazy not to keep all important files on a backed-up RAID array. It's a professional tool, after all. (and I keep my music on an off-site-backed-up RAID array)
    - extra88 8y ago
      Yes, I just bought one for someone at work, got a good deal at Microcenter but I’m still annoyed that I couldn’t get one with less than 1 TB and pay less; the internal drive is not where our data goes.
      - rbanffy 8y ago
        Unless you have a really nice RAID array, internal still beats external. I like to back up hourly (a timeboxed rsync) to an external disk (and use Time Machine too on Macs).
        extra88 8y ago
        It's not about performance, it's about location and a little bit about capacity. Everyone in the office keeps the data on a largish NAS over a 10 gigabit network.
- ropeadopepope 8y ago
  What kind of pro computer doesn't come with top notch support? "Apple REFUSED to fix our iMac pro" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-NU7yOSElE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-NU7yOSElE "The Apple Store Genius Bar broke my $5000 iMac pro" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_NRcy5mxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_NRcy5mxU
  - wilsonnb2 8y ago
    It's unwise to extrapolate that the iMac Pro doesn't come with top notch support from a single instance of bad support. I side with Apple in the Linux Tech Tips issue, though. They're under no obligation to fix it after he broke it by intentionally violating the terms and conditions.
    - ropeadopepope 8y ago
      Those aren't even close to the only two issues reported. They're just the most visible.

You can buy an iMac Pro with an 18 core Xeon, 128GB ECC RAM, 4TB SSD, and Vega 64 graphics. If that's not a pro computer, then I'm not sure what is.

blacksmith_tb 8y ago
Nice specs, but you can't upgrade the SSDs, RAM is possible but breaks warranty, can't upgrade the soldered GPU, and it's unclear if the CPU is actually upgrade-able. So I would call it disappointing, as a 'Professional' product.
- rbanffy 8y ago
  It's a professional tool. When the GPU is too slow or I need more than than 18 cores or 128 GB of RAM, I'll just buy a new one. I'm pretty sure that won't happen in less than 5 years. As for storage, I'd be crazy not to keep all important files on a backed-up RAID array. It's a professional tool, after all. (and I keep my music on an off-site-backed-up RAID array)
  - extra88 8y ago
    Yes, I just bought one for someone at work, got a good deal at Microcenter but I’m still annoyed that I couldn’t get one with less than 1 TB and pay less; the internal drive is not where our data goes.
    - rbanffy 8y ago
      Unless you have a really nice RAID array, internal still beats external. I like to back up hourly (a timeboxed rsync) to an external disk (and use Time Machine too on Macs).
      - extra88 8y ago
        It's not about performance, it's about location and a little bit about capacity. Everyone in the office keeps the data on a largish NAS over a 10 gigabit network.
ropeadopepope 8y ago
What kind of pro computer doesn't come with top notch support? "Apple REFUSED to fix our iMac pro" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-NU7yOSElE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-NU7yOSElE "The Apple Store Genius Bar broke my $5000 iMac pro" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_NRcy5mxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_NRcy5mxU
- wilsonnb2 8y ago
  It's unwise to extrapolate that the iMac Pro doesn't come with top notch support from a single instance of bad support. I side with Apple in the Linux Tech Tips issue, though. They're under no obligation to fix it after he broke it by intentionally violating the terms and conditions.
  - ropeadopepope 8y ago
    Those aren't even close to the only two issues reported. They're just the most visible.