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What I'd like most from a Laptop Win 10 review is a 2 year later review. We use a macbook air at home, it still runs just as good as when we got it. I've alway

by jboy55 8y ago

What I'd like most from a Laptop Win 10 review is a 2 year later review. We use a macbook air at home, it still runs just as good as when we got it. I've always had issues with Windows where the out of the box experience is incredible, but 2 years later, I'm waiting 5 minutes after start for, 'things to finish' before the computer begins to feel fast again. Whenever I look at replacing the Air, I get nearly to the end of the checkout with a new macbook pro 13" (what I use for work), when I get a sick feeling that I shouldn't be spending $2k for our house 'in front of the tv' laptop.

blinkingled 8y ago
I think it depends a lot on the specifics of the hardware and your usage - I choose my Win 10 boxen to be good quality - HP or Dell or Lenovo business gear. I even ran Win 10 for long time on 15" MBP. Never had issues anywhere except with the 1803 update killing sleep on my Z230 which required rollback to fix. I also don't install and delete random stuff on those boxes. Macs for the most part in the house are trouble free too. But suddenly apps not launching or just beachballing is not uncommon after high number of suspend/resume cycles without reboot. Truth be told it's amazing in OS land right now - Fedora/Ubuntu, W10, macOS all do a number of things right without a sweat. One thing that Win10 on my X1C6 has macOS beat is speed to the desktop after suspend. I don't know about TouchID MBPs but connected standby + Fingerprint logon on Windows 10 makes the resume to desktop experience blazing fast.
WorldMaker 8y ago
"S Mode" and forcing more of your Windows 10 application installs to use the Microsoft Store is a big one. A lot of the biggest culprits for the start time "things to finish" were ad hoc updaters from various terrible vendors. Everyone: don't install Flash (built in to IE/Edge, if you need it, and you likely don't), don't install Java as much as you can avoid it (find alternatives or standalone installs), and install iTunes only from the Microsoft Store if you want it (goodbye Apple Updater, you will not be missed). Those recommendations alone take care of so much startup gunk. Power Users: check Startup applications and Services in Task Manager's Advanced/Details view from time to time. Task Manager in Windows 10 lets you disable Startup applications directly without needing any other tool. Many third party services you can switch from Automatic to Automatic (Delayed Start) and lose no functionality, but get out of the Windows startup "hot path". I have backup software that absolutely needed to be (Delayed Start), not just because it was slowing Windows startup but also because it was trying to access system/network resources before Windows was ready for them anyway, yet the installer did not default it to be (Delayed Start) up until just recently. (If you build Windows Services, consider defaulting your service installers for Delayed Start or Trigger Start. You don't need to be in the startup hot path, you are more likely to be getting in the way.)

by jboy55 8y ago

blinkingled 8y ago

I think it depends a lot on the specifics of the hardware and your usage - I choose my Win 10 boxen to be good quality - HP or Dell or Lenovo business gear. I even ran Win 10 for long time on 15" MBP. Never had issues anywhere except with the 1803 update killing sleep on my Z230 which required rollback to fix. I also don't install and delete random stuff on those boxes. Macs for the most part in the house are trouble free too. But suddenly apps not launching or just beachballing is not uncommon after high number of suspend/resume cycles without reboot. Truth be told it's amazing in OS land right now - Fedora/Ubuntu, W10, macOS all do a number of things right without a sweat. One thing that Win10 on my X1C6 has macOS beat is speed to the desktop after suspend. I don't know about TouchID MBPs but connected standby + Fingerprint logon on Windows 10 makes the resume to desktop experience blazing fast.

WorldMaker 8y ago

"S Mode" and forcing more of your Windows 10 application installs to use the Microsoft Store is a big one. A lot of the biggest culprits for the start time "things to finish" were ad hoc updaters from various terrible vendors. Everyone: don't install Flash (built in to IE/Edge, if you need it, and you likely don't), don't install Java as much as you can avoid it (find alternatives or standalone installs), and install iTunes only from the Microsoft Store if you want it (goodbye Apple Updater, you will not be missed). Those recommendations alone take care of so much startup gunk. Power Users: check Startup applications and Services in Task Manager's Advanced/Details view from time to time. Task Manager in Windows 10 lets you disable Startup applications directly without needing any other tool. Many third party services you can switch from Automatic to Automatic (Delayed Start) and lose no functionality, but get out of the Windows startup "hot path". I have backup software that absolutely needed to be (Delayed Start), not just because it was slowing Windows startup but also because it was trying to access system/network resources before Windows was ready for them anyway, yet the installer did not default it to be (Delayed Start) up until just recently. (If you build Windows Services, consider defaulting your service installers for Delayed Start or Trigger Start. You don't need to be in the startup hot path, you are more likely to be getting in the way.)