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John Gruber made an observation countering this narrative[1] To sum it up; looking around you don't see people in coffee shops using iPads (or any tablets)--it

by pfranz 8y ago

John Gruber made an observation countering this narrative[1] To sum it up; looking around you don't see people in coffee shops using iPads (or any tablets)--it's all laptops. Even though iPads have outsold laptops by a significant margin for years now. As a bit of a tangent (also mentioned by him); anyone who is productive on an iPad Pro uses a keyboard. Apple has refused to add touchscreens to laptops, but iPads with keyboard suffer this exact problem. So something still needs to evolve. I see iPads/phones replacing the entertainment needs a general purpose computer used to fill and maybe Apple gets out of general purpose computing. This is also happening for "light" computing needs in business; like POS and inventory. But I don't see any sign that a PC going away at all for workhorse tasks just yet. [1] https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/06/13/ipad-trackpad-idea https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/06/13/ipad-trackpad-i...

dingaling 8y ago
> Even though iPads have outsold laptops by a significant margin for years now. Actually they barely ever did, and the peak is past. For example in 2017 there were about 164 million laptops sold versus 161 million tablets of all types. In 2007 it was 109 million laptops and zero tablets.
- pfranz 8y ago
  I was thinking about Apple Laptops vs iPads since the whole assertion is that Apple is giving up on computer hardware because iPads will replace them. The best numbers I could find [1][2] is that Apple sold 19 million Macs (desktops and laptops) and 43 million tablets in 2017, with similar numbers the previous year. My point still stands: if Apple is betting that so many iPads are starting to replace the functionality of traditional computers and they're selling very large numbers of them, how come they're rarely, if ever, seen where we see them in public use such as cafes? [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/276308/global-apple-mac-sales-since-fiscal-year-2002/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/276308/global-apple-mac-... [2] https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/05/4q17-ipad-vs-other-tablet-sales-idc/ https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/05/4q17-ipad-vs-other-tabl...

by pfranz 8y ago

dingaling 8y ago

> Even though iPads have outsold laptops by a significant margin for years now. Actually they barely ever did, and the peak is past. For example in 2017 there were about 164 million laptops sold versus 161 million tablets of all types. In 2007 it was 109 million laptops and zero tablets.

pfranz 8y ago
I was thinking about Apple Laptops vs iPads since the whole assertion is that Apple is giving up on computer hardware because iPads will replace them. The best numbers I could find [1][2] is that Apple sold 19 million Macs (desktops and laptops) and 43 million tablets in 2017, with similar numbers the previous year. My point still stands: if Apple is betting that so many iPads are starting to replace the functionality of traditional computers and they're selling very large numbers of them, how come they're rarely, if ever, seen where we see them in public use such as cafes? [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/276308/global-apple-mac-sales-since-fiscal-year-2002/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/276308/global-apple-mac-... [2] https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/05/4q17-ipad-vs-other-tablet-sales-idc/ https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/05/4q17-ipad-vs-other-tabl...