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I'm just trying this (free and open source): https://github.com/firefly-iii/firefly-iii https://github.com/firefly-iii/firefly-iii I dislike giving all my data

I'm just trying this (free and open source): https://github.com/firefly-iii/firefly-iii https://github.com/firefly-iii/firefly-iii I dislike giving all my data to (cloud)services like Ynab, who sell all your data/profile to others...

aguynamedben 8y ago
FWIW https://www.youneedabudget.com/privacy-policy/ https://www.youneedabudget.com/privacy-policy/ "We do not sell users’ data. (And we never have!)" They make money by charging $5/mo and having a large cult following.
- DavideNL 8y ago
  It's worth nothing... especially if you know that payment information is worth A LOT of money. There is no way at all to verify they are not selling your data. Also, there is no law that forbids them to do so.
  - asdsa5325 8y ago
    There are most definitely laws that forbid them from stating "we do not sell your data" and selling it anyway. Also, why would they sell your data? The bank accounts you connect to YNAB already have your data and sell it. Do you also not use banks?
    - DavideNL 8y ago
      I seriously doubt that. Facebook says they don't sell your data, do you believe them also? ( https://www.fastcompany.com/40554491/zuckerberg-keeps-insisting-facebook-doesnt-sell-our-data-what-it-does-is-even-worse https://www.fastcompany.com/40554491/zuckerberg-keeps-insist... ) Where i live (Netherlands, Europe) banks are not allowed to sell our data.
      - asdsa5325 8y ago
        Facebook doesn't sell your data. They use it for advertising, but that is done internally. I also don't use Facebook, and try not to associate myself with their drama
        DavideNL 8y ago
        > Facebook doesn't sell your data That's what they say (just as Ynab says.) But that's not what really happens: "How to Check If Your Facebook Data Was Sold Off": https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/check-facebook-data-sold-off/ https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/check-facebook-data-sold-off/

aguynamedben 8y ago

FWIW https://www.youneedabudget.com/privacy-policy/ https://www.youneedabudget.com/privacy-policy/ "We do not sell users’ data. (And we never have!)" They make money by charging $5/mo and having a large cult following.

DavideNL 8y ago
It's worth nothing... especially if you know that payment information is worth A LOT of money. There is no way at all to verify they are not selling your data. Also, there is no law that forbids them to do so.
- asdsa5325 8y ago
  There are most definitely laws that forbid them from stating "we do not sell your data" and selling it anyway. Also, why would they sell your data? The bank accounts you connect to YNAB already have your data and sell it. Do you also not use banks?
  - DavideNL 8y ago
    I seriously doubt that. Facebook says they don't sell your data, do you believe them also? ( https://www.fastcompany.com/40554491/zuckerberg-keeps-insisting-facebook-doesnt-sell-our-data-what-it-does-is-even-worse https://www.fastcompany.com/40554491/zuckerberg-keeps-insist... ) Where i live (Netherlands, Europe) banks are not allowed to sell our data.
    - asdsa5325 8y ago
      Facebook doesn't sell your data. They use it for advertising, but that is done internally. I also don't use Facebook, and try not to associate myself with their drama
      - DavideNL 8y ago
        > Facebook doesn't sell your data That's what they say (just as Ynab says.) But that's not what really happens: "How to Check If Your Facebook Data Was Sold Off": https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/check-facebook-data-sold-off/ https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/check-facebook-data-sold-off/