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The article claims service every 15 minutes during most of the day, which means it will be extremely unprofitable to build. This isn't meant to return it's inv

The article claims service every 15 minutes during most of the day, which means it will be extremely unprofitable to build. This isn't meant to return it's investment, it's meant as an operational testbed for musk's vision.

cozzyd 8y ago
The RFQ required that, but with only 8-16 people per vehicle, they'd have to go much more often to have any reasonable throughput.
smnrchrds 8y ago
The 30 second figure is from The Boring Company: > Electric skates will leave each station as frequently as every 30 seconds. The Chicago Express Loop will operate 20 hours per day, every day of the week. Source: https://www.boringcompany.com/chicago/ https://www.boringcompany.com/chicago/
- ComradeTaco 8y ago
  Ahh, I appreciate the correction! I thought they were going to have a single track tunnel with passing sidings based on the 1.6 billion dollar construction costs, which would limit frequency. Does Musk seriously believe he get two ~20 mile tunnels and terminals for $1.6 billion? I don't know if he's exceedingly ambitious or delusional, give that a underground that's depicted in the rendering would cost 1/4 of his budget.
  - tcbawo 8y ago
    That $1.6 billion was my back of the envelope estimate based on costs I found in the news. Apparently, there is a unnamed source quoted in the Tribune that the cost would be under $1 billion. Also, these skates are the width of an electric car, so one tunnel 28 feet wide should suffice for bidirectional traffic.
    - ComradeTaco 8y ago
      If your goal was to cut costs and your largest single expense was boring, you would choose two 14' bores over a single 28' bore, because a 28' bore has a cross section twice as large as the combined cross section of two 14' bores and variable costs for boring are roughly based on cross sectional area One of the only things that I can agree with Musk in regards to this project is that larger tunnels are more expensive.
      - Scarblac 8y ago
        Wouldn't you need a third tunnel for emergency escape / access?
    - fyfy18 8y ago
      If they can really do it for that price, that’s impressive. In London one of the tube lines is being extended by 3.2km and it will cost $1.6b (£1.2b): https://www.london.gov.uk//press-releases/mayoral/nle-tunnelling-to-start-in-march https://www.london.gov.uk//press-releases/mayoral/nle-tunnel... London is relatively easy to tunnel in, and as it’s an extension existing rolling stock will be used (so no development or purchase costs).

cozzyd 8y ago

The RFQ required that, but with only 8-16 people per vehicle, they'd have to go much more often to have any reasonable throughput.

smnrchrds 8y ago

The 30 second figure is from The Boring Company: > Electric skates will leave each station as frequently as every 30 seconds. The Chicago Express Loop will operate 20 hours per day, every day of the week. Source: https://www.boringcompany.com/chicago/ https://www.boringcompany.com/chicago/

ComradeTaco 8y ago
Ahh, I appreciate the correction! I thought they were going to have a single track tunnel with passing sidings based on the 1.6 billion dollar construction costs, which would limit frequency. Does Musk seriously believe he get two ~20 mile tunnels and terminals for $1.6 billion? I don't know if he's exceedingly ambitious or delusional, give that a underground that's depicted in the rendering would cost 1/4 of his budget.
- tcbawo 8y ago
  That $1.6 billion was my back of the envelope estimate based on costs I found in the news. Apparently, there is a unnamed source quoted in the Tribune that the cost would be under $1 billion. Also, these skates are the width of an electric car, so one tunnel 28 feet wide should suffice for bidirectional traffic.
  - ComradeTaco 8y ago
    If your goal was to cut costs and your largest single expense was boring, you would choose two 14' bores over a single 28' bore, because a 28' bore has a cross section twice as large as the combined cross section of two 14' bores and variable costs for boring are roughly based on cross sectional area One of the only things that I can agree with Musk in regards to this project is that larger tunnels are more expensive.
    - Scarblac 8y ago
      Wouldn't you need a third tunnel for emergency escape / access?
  - fyfy18 8y ago
    If they can really do it for that price, that’s impressive. In London one of the tube lines is being extended by 3.2km and it will cost $1.6b (£1.2b): https://www.london.gov.uk//press-releases/mayoral/nle-tunnelling-to-start-in-march https://www.london.gov.uk//press-releases/mayoral/nle-tunnel... London is relatively easy to tunnel in, and as it’s an extension existing rolling stock will be used (so no development or purchase costs).