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I don't like social media being used this way. I mean, I don't like social media at all, i only use irc and gnusocial these days, but it seems dishonest and da

by qop 8y ago

I don't like social media being used this way. I mean, I don't like social media at all, i only use irc and gnusocial these days, but it seems dishonest and dangerous to use social media as a canvas for fake interactions. Like reality tv in real life. That's not something kids need to be interacting with on social media imo.

dragonwriter 8y ago
Facebook Watch, the platform this is on, is a VOD platform. Serialized entertainment video content on a video-on-demand platform is usually the raison d’etre of the platform.
- gowld 8y ago
  They also publish the fiction via Instagram.
GuiA 8y ago
Your argument could apply to all media that exist: “I don’t like $MEDIUM being used this way. Well I don’t like $MEDIUM at all, but it seems dishonest and dangerous to use $MEDIUM as a canvas for fake interactions” where $MEDIUM can be TV, radio, comic books, etc. That makes it a not so great argument. (your comment is being downvoted, and I am a big fan of giving grey comments insight in why they might be getting downvoted, so that they have information should they wish to improve their HN submissions)
- qop 8y ago
  Most media isn't interacted with, so no, not really. I don't particularly care what the average HN user thinks of what I post. I post to share my opinion and experience. Most users are twenty-somethings filled with angst and frustration at a world they have no influence over. It wasn't downvoted at first, but now it is. There's a small group of users that follow my posts around and snipe them. It's whatever. HN doesn't really ""moderate"" content unless you're doing thoughtcrime or bringing attention to some of the censorship here. Anyways, Facebook is an interactive medium. It's not the same as TV or movies or music, it intrinsically carries a responsibility to maintain what users are shown. Sort of like a TV channel,and by this I mean the people that determine what is broadcasted. If natgeo suddenly stopped showing educational content and started shoveling drivel, the audience could just leave. (Bad example, since they DO shovel garbage on natgeo now... ) Facebook is not generally understood as an instrument of advertisement the way it really is. The same as google. The veneer of "I can message my friends and see photos of their food" is enough to fool most users. This is especially heinous with kids, since they are much more impressionable and I think that demands an obligation to do what it takes to keep them safe and help them avoid content that is not healthy for them, and also to help them learn to moderate their content towards that same goal. Kids these days aren't as critical of what they consume. Now, there's eons of people complaining about "kids these days", and like everybody else, I never thought I'd be one of those people but I guess it's just societal upkeep to do it. Anyways, kids are not as perceptive as industry veterans when they are being manipulated. It's like New Coke. I've seen the world change and people change WITH the world. The new world seems to be about how much you consume, and not the what or the why of the consumption. Anyways thanks, I guess? Your comment kinda has that snarky "go fuck yourself"-but-in-a-pseudo-friendly tone feel to it. Perfect example of HN's weird echoey self-contained culture.
  - musage 8y ago
    > The new world seems to be about how much you consume, and not the what or the why of the consumption. Also see the usage of the word "content creator" without a hint of sarcasm.
  - subjectsigma 8y ago
    Apologies for meta-discussion, but that's one of the reasons I love HN. Reading comments like that is seriously entertaining. I just find it so funny that when confronted with a situation where mods will ban you for being openly rude or vulgar, people developed a whole toolbox of backhanded compliments, snarky adjectives, and wordy moralizing to continue to get their points across. Don't take it too personally, and remember that occasionally someone actually is trying to help you.
    - qop 8y ago
      And let me guess, you're in your twenties or maybe early thirties, you're a developer under some manager, nobody answers to you where you work, maybe you have a degree that you'll still pay for five years from now... Probably California resident but maybe not. I'm sure some of this familiar. These are not valuable attributes in opinions. These are people who could be replaced by one another, theres no utility or really anything redeeming about any one of them in particular. Like I said, I post to share a 25+yr career's worth of experience, not to hear little kids tell me how to be snarky online. That's literally one of the most pathetic things I've ever heard. HN should abandon it's weird pseudomarxist ideals of self-moderation/conversation and maybe talk about computers for a change.
      - subjectsigma 8y ago
        Your demographics are off, but not by much. I think you're taking this a little too seriously. Going to assume you want to end the discussion.

by qop 8y ago

dragonwriter 8y ago

Facebook Watch, the platform this is on, is a VOD platform. Serialized entertainment video content on a video-on-demand platform is usually the raison d’etre of the platform.

gowld 8y ago
They also publish the fiction via Instagram.

GuiA 8y ago

Your argument could apply to all media that exist: “I don’t like $MEDIUM being used this way. Well I don’t like $MEDIUM at all, but it seems dishonest and dangerous to use $MEDIUM as a canvas for fake interactions” where $MEDIUM can be TV, radio, comic books, etc. That makes it a not so great argument. (your comment is being downvoted, and I am a big fan of giving grey comments insight in why they might be getting downvoted, so that they have information should they wish to improve their HN submissions)

qop 8y ago
Most media isn't interacted with, so no, not really. I don't particularly care what the average HN user thinks of what I post. I post to share my opinion and experience. Most users are twenty-somethings filled with angst and frustration at a world they have no influence over. It wasn't downvoted at first, but now it is. There's a small group of users that follow my posts around and snipe them. It's whatever. HN doesn't really ""moderate"" content unless you're doing thoughtcrime or bringing attention to some of the censorship here. Anyways, Facebook is an interactive medium. It's not the same as TV or movies or music, it intrinsically carries a responsibility to maintain what users are shown. Sort of like a TV channel,and by this I mean the people that determine what is broadcasted. If natgeo suddenly stopped showing educational content and started shoveling drivel, the audience could just leave. (Bad example, since they DO shovel garbage on natgeo now... ) Facebook is not generally understood as an instrument of advertisement the way it really is. The same as google. The veneer of "I can message my friends and see photos of their food" is enough to fool most users. This is especially heinous with kids, since they are much more impressionable and I think that demands an obligation to do what it takes to keep them safe and help them avoid content that is not healthy for them, and also to help them learn to moderate their content towards that same goal. Kids these days aren't as critical of what they consume. Now, there's eons of people complaining about "kids these days", and like everybody else, I never thought I'd be one of those people but I guess it's just societal upkeep to do it. Anyways, kids are not as perceptive as industry veterans when they are being manipulated. It's like New Coke. I've seen the world change and people change WITH the world. The new world seems to be about how much you consume, and not the what or the why of the consumption. Anyways thanks, I guess? Your comment kinda has that snarky "go fuck yourself"-but-in-a-pseudo-friendly tone feel to it. Perfect example of HN's weird echoey self-contained culture.
- musage 8y ago
  > The new world seems to be about how much you consume, and not the what or the why of the consumption. Also see the usage of the word "content creator" without a hint of sarcasm.
- subjectsigma 8y ago
  Apologies for meta-discussion, but that's one of the reasons I love HN. Reading comments like that is seriously entertaining. I just find it so funny that when confronted with a situation where mods will ban you for being openly rude or vulgar, people developed a whole toolbox of backhanded compliments, snarky adjectives, and wordy moralizing to continue to get their points across. Don't take it too personally, and remember that occasionally someone actually is trying to help you.
  - qop 8y ago
    And let me guess, you're in your twenties or maybe early thirties, you're a developer under some manager, nobody answers to you where you work, maybe you have a degree that you'll still pay for five years from now... Probably California resident but maybe not. I'm sure some of this familiar. These are not valuable attributes in opinions. These are people who could be replaced by one another, theres no utility or really anything redeeming about any one of them in particular. Like I said, I post to share a 25+yr career's worth of experience, not to hear little kids tell me how to be snarky online. That's literally one of the most pathetic things I've ever heard. HN should abandon it's weird pseudomarxist ideals of self-moderation/conversation and maybe talk about computers for a change.
    - subjectsigma 8y ago
      Your demographics are off, but not by much. I think you're taking this a little too seriously. Going to assume you want to end the discussion.