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When you ask how you get an “A,” they’re likely to be annoyed because you’re indicating you don’t care about learning, which is the best way to earn an A. I ca
by sofal 16y ago
When you ask how you get an “A,” they’re likely to be annoyed because you’re indicating you don’t care about learning, which is the best way to earn an A.
I cannot stand it when a professor says that the best way to get an A is to learn. It shows a fundamental ignorance about their own system of instruction.
If there is anything I've learned about universities, it is that learning is at best orthogonal to getting an A. More often you have to actively sabotage your actual learning in order to get an A.
When you get excited about a subject enough to explore it on your own, you will almost inevitably end up either spending too much time on one part of the curriculum or neglecting the rote memorization and tedious busy work that is necessary to get an A. Classes are just small factories, treating and evaluating every student the same way. It is and ever was a game of points and percentages. If you want "learning" out of this, you need to balance it with playing the game.
Professors have either never known this or have completely forgotten it. They constantly whine about how students seemingly strive to get the least out of their education as possible by taking as many shortcuts as they can. What they fail to realize is that all of their classes are set up as silly little point games, and each student has about 5 or 6 of them. Then they give out so many busy work assignments and so much reading per class that it is impossible to accomplish it all. The students are essentially learning how to prioritize and cut out all of the unnecessary fat in order to maximize their points. They're kept so busy that they don't even know that they're not really maximizing for learning. Learning is not what the professors tell them to do. Learning is not what the professors hold over their heads. They live by points, and die by points. It takes a special student to pull his/her head out of this firehose of tasks and decide to pursue their own education.
So Bob the student comes into class and he hasn't done the reading. Why? Because he has spent 102% of his time on the various homeworks and deliverables for this and other classes -- the stuff that actually has an effect on the bottom line: his grade. He'd sure like to do the reading, but he knows that he can get the assignments done just as well without it, and so it goes to the bottom of the priority list. He will never get around to doing the reading, because the list of grade-impacting busy-work deliverables will never cease.
The professors then complain about the students like Bob, who don't seem to want to actively explore their subject. They complain about the work of their own hands, the inevitable result of their own system. The professor actively molds students to be this way, and then they complain about it.
That is what I wish I'd known as a freshman.
- psyklic 16y agoIt sounds like Bob overloaded his schedule. Or, more likely, he's been partying all night and placed his priorities elsewhere. Most students tend to procrastinate to the last second then whine that they "didn't have time" to get the assignment done, muchless the reading. And that is the sad truth. Anyhow, points are a game that even the best students get sucked into playing. We are not passionate about every subject, obviously. So, play the points game for subjects you don't care about, then really try and learn for the subjects you do care about. It will only help your grade, and you might find some friends and supporters along the way too.
- Groxx 16y agoSome, certainly, but not all by any means. Try doing well in an art / music field, both of which require many many many hours outside of class - typically more than 2x the hour load - and learning more abstract skills like math or coding. The stuff you can sacrifice a little becomes the stuff you sacrifice. For instance: across two projects in two classes, I've clocked over 1000 hours. Both classes had 3 (shorter) projects, and I had three other courses at the same time. And that wasn't my busiest semester. That one had 21 credits - one of which was an internship - and a part time job. (not recommended under any circumstance, btw)
- luchak 16y agoPerhaps other people are different, but I rarely learn important things or acquire deep understanding without doing a certain amount of "busy work". It took me a semester of physics homework to actually understand vector calculus. I had to write philosophy papers in order to see the beautiful arguments in my head fall apart on the page. I tried to learn a language by immersion alone -- but that left gaps it took hours and hours with a textbook to fix. Even points aren't a terrible idea: I'm very good at overestimating the depth of my understanding, and I often have to do a certain amount of grinding to uncover the deficiencies in my knowledge. During my undergraduate career, points (when properly applied) were very good at getting me to realize how important some of the pointless-seeming work was. Good professors will probably give you some "busy work". Whether they're assigning the right work, and providing the right incentives, is another question.