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look up gamejournospro on Google. gamergate would have not existed if not for a bunch of "journalists" colluding in a private mailing list, more interested in p

by aikah 8y ago

look up gamejournospro on Google. gamergate would have not existed if not for a bunch of "journalists" colluding in a private mailing list, more interested in pushing intersectional activism than reporting news. one cant insult its audience and the expect the latter not to rebel against that. "gamers are dead" / "gamers don't have to be your audience" is what led the divorce between the gaming press and half its readers. off course these "journalists" caught red handed are not going to report on their misdeeds. they'll quote tweets then claim they are victim of the internet mob.

crooked-v 8y ago
> gamejournospro https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/addressing-allegations-of-collusion-among-gaming-journalists/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/addressing-allegation... The "controversial" content was a single message to a politically neutral industry mailing list suggesting an open letter of support for Zoe Quinn in the face of harrassment, which was rejected by the other members of the mailing list as inappropriate for journalists.
- aikah 8y ago
  the author of that article himself is a member of that mailing list. you can't find a more biased source. can you? check deepfreeze the web site.
- themaninthedark 8y ago
  https://techraptor.net/content/secret-game-journalist-mailing-list-gamejournopros-exposed https://techraptor.net/content/secret-game-journalist-mailin... Here is a link from a neutral source instead of one of the people who was accused of collusion.
  - PhasmaFelis 8y ago
    The passages quoted there are considerably less incendiary than the text surrounding them claims, e.g. the very first one concludes that they shouldn't use their professional sites to fight harassment, only their personal accounts. Fighting against lies and harassment is not "pushing an agenda and silencing one side of the issue"--and I want to remind you, again, that the corruption allegations against Quinn are provably lies. Regardless, in the worst case, since the GameJournoPros mailing list has not been publicly released that I'm aware of, your source and mine are equally cherry-picking to support their views. You should be aware, however, that the source of your cherry-picks is Milo Yiannopoulos. Milo has, ironically, also been implicated in organizing journalists to push a narrative, only his journalist friends are literal, self-described Nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos#Leaked_Breitbart_emails https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos#Leaked_Breit... So I would be very, very wary of taking him at face value on any subject involving women or politics.
    - themaninthedark 8y ago
      As far as I know there were no corruption accusations against Zoe, they were against Nathan Grayson. Zoe was just accused of being a horrible person afik. I too would be interested to see the full text of the list.

by aikah 8y ago

crooked-v 8y ago

> gamejournospro https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/addressing-allegations-of-collusion-among-gaming-journalists/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/addressing-allegation... The "controversial" content was a single message to a politically neutral industry mailing list suggesting an open letter of support for Zoe Quinn in the face of harrassment, which was rejected by the other members of the mailing list as inappropriate for journalists.

aikah 8y ago
the author of that article himself is a member of that mailing list. you can't find a more biased source. can you? check deepfreeze the web site.
themaninthedark 8y ago
https://techraptor.net/content/secret-game-journalist-mailing-list-gamejournopros-exposed https://techraptor.net/content/secret-game-journalist-mailin... Here is a link from a neutral source instead of one of the people who was accused of collusion.
- PhasmaFelis 8y ago
  The passages quoted there are considerably less incendiary than the text surrounding them claims, e.g. the very first one concludes that they shouldn't use their professional sites to fight harassment, only their personal accounts. Fighting against lies and harassment is not "pushing an agenda and silencing one side of the issue"--and I want to remind you, again, that the corruption allegations against Quinn are provably lies. Regardless, in the worst case, since the GameJournoPros mailing list has not been publicly released that I'm aware of, your source and mine are equally cherry-picking to support their views. You should be aware, however, that the source of your cherry-picks is Milo Yiannopoulos. Milo has, ironically, also been implicated in organizing journalists to push a narrative, only his journalist friends are literal, self-described Nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos#Leaked_Breitbart_emails https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos#Leaked_Breit... So I would be very, very wary of taking him at face value on any subject involving women or politics.
  - themaninthedark 8y ago
    As far as I know there were no corruption accusations against Zoe, they were against Nathan Grayson. Zoe was just accused of being a horrible person afik. I too would be interested to see the full text of the list.