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First, my (relatively privileged) perspective: - American citizen (double taxes, etc) - Self-employed software consultant working remotely for US clients - N
by chatmasta 8y ago
First, my (relatively privileged) perspective:
- American citizen (double taxes, etc)
- Self-employed software consultant working remotely for US clients
- Not living in London
- Live in a small town near Cambridge, where I commute via train to work in a coworking office
A lot of the "good parts" are not specific to the UK, but to the lifestyle of a software consultant. So I'll leave those out.
Also, it's worth noting that I've traveled and lived in many countries and cities. I've lived 3+ months in SF, NYC, Taipei, Seattle, Houston, and the UK. I've lived 1+ month in Budapest, Belgrade, Zagreb, and probably some others I'm forgetting. In the end, every place is really the same. Yes there are subtle differences, but you're still the same person with (hopefully) the same routine, etc. Especially when the language is the same, there are little to no major differences. Still, there are some subtleties so I will try to flesh some of those out.
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THE GOOD PARTS of living in the UK:
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- My girlfriend lives here (obviously the #1 benefit!)
- The GBP/USD exchange rate has been trashed the last two years. Since I work primarily with US clients and receive payments in USD, this is good for me when transferring. Although it's been climbing back up.
- I'm not surrounded by US politics everywhere I go, although it's still hard to avoid.
- My US rates give me a lot of relative spending power in the UK (but also see cons)
- UK.gov is actually a surprisingly helpful resource and really smoothens interactions with the government. Local government websites are another story.
- English breakfasts
- Banking is simpler than in the US, but regulations can be a pain, and often times it seems like something is "for your security" but it's just poorly thought out and implemented.
- The trains are great, but also pretty expensive.
- Cheap and fast mobile data plans. Reliable broadband.
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THE BAD PARTS of living in the UK:
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- The weather, except for 3-4 months in the summer. At least winters are mild, though.
- Missing my friends, family etc. Missing New York.
- Terrible, terrible wages in tech, typically half of US salaries even after adjustments. This isn't too much of a problem for me since I'm self-employed, but it does effectively take the option of employment off the table. Note that as a founder, this could be a benefit.
- Council taxes, TV licensing, needing a license for tons of things, and generally over-bureaucratic systems in banking and government that cause more problems than they attempt to solve. Sometimes it feels like you need a full background check just to walk down the street. The amount of private data I had to give to landlords is astounding.
- Massive surveillance, both online and offline, and especially on the motor ways. Few protections on freedom of speech.
- Groceries and restaurants are typically more expensive than in the US. In general the cost of living is higher, but this is somewhat offset by my living in a small town.
- No Chipotle. :(
- Classism, racism and sexism amongst the ruling/elite class. This doesn't affect me directly but I've seen it second-hand for sure.
- Very poor, uneducated population with astoundingly high rates of addiction to gambling, cigarettes and alcohol. [EDIT: Ok, this point is a bit unfair and hypocritical of me to paint with such a broad stroke. This criticism certainly does not apply to the entire population. However, where I live, in a rural area dominated by the horse racing industry, it definitely holds true. And I say this as someone who is friends with many people who fit this description. If I were a UK politician, I would eliminate gambling, raise the drinking and smoking age to 21 and require students to stay in school until age 18. This would solve a lot of problems IMO.]
- Extremely narrow, dangerous roads.
- Double taxation (this is a US issue and really not that big a deal, just more paperwork)
- Antiquated drug laws akin to 1980-2000 in the USA.
- chrisseaton 8y agoWow it sounds like you really do not like the UK. I'm surprised and sad that you find us significantly less educated and more racist than in the US and other places. But what are you having to get a licence for? A television, but then what else? Guns? And what do people have against the weather anyway? Because it rains? What's wrong with rain?
- chatmasta 8y agoI live in a rural area so that definitely slants the racism in a bad direction. Sorry if it sounded harsh -- I've definitely met lots of nice, intelligent people here. But at the same time there are some really awful people as well. The reason I put it in the cons is because a lot of it seems systemic; there is really no reason for legalized gambling, it's draining society. Kids shouldn't be able to opt out of school at 16. This is purely anecdotal, but in general I feel like there is a lack of ambition or desire to improve one’s standing in life. I attribute this to the social safety net and a long history of class immobility. In the US, there is very little safety net, and you’re on your own. This causes a lot of problems but also “lights a fire under your ass,” so to speak. You are only responsible for yourself and there is something romantic about that. In the UK there is nothing akin to the “American dream,” and that’s a shame. To be fair, the US has many of these same problems, and some much worse. Also, I never said the UK was “significantly more” racist or uneducated than other places, and I don’t think it is. To be honest I'm a bit of a nihilist and rather cynical about the human condition sometimes. \_-_-_/ Re: licensing, it’s not so much a practical problem as a philosophical one. A lot of official processes just feel really invasive compared to what I’m used to in the US (as a citizen, at least — I’m sure the US processes feel quite invasive to foreigners.) It’s more of a feeling than something that can be logically explained. And certainly it’s not a huge problem nor a reason to avoid the country. Re: weather. I actually kind of like the weather here, just because the temperate climate means the temperature range is much narrower than in the northeastern US where I’m from. That said, it would be nice to feel some heat now and then. And yeah, the rain isn’t that bad, it rarely even lasts longer than 20 minutes. But weather can be “bad” or “depressing” even when there is no rain. Gray skies have a real effect on psyche. Sometimes there will be weeks of gray, cloudy skies. It just wears on you after a while. This is probably why Britons like holidays so much. It’s nice to see the sun. Overall I do like it here.