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As a EU Citizen, whose grandfather fought for the freedoms in WWII alongside British pilots, those freedoms, including Schengen area freedom of movement that UK

As a EU Citizen, whose grandfather fought for the freedoms in WWII alongside British pilots, those freedoms, including Schengen area freedom of movement that UK never bother to adopt, are being thrown away and they dare ask people to apply for a visa now? Good luck with that.

alva 8y ago
> Good luck with that. Since the Brexit vote net-migration for the UK is over half a million people, your native Poland is still suffering huge negative net-migration. "Despite Brexit" the UK attracts top talent from across the EU due to well paid jobs, culture and a business friendly environment. Look at immigrant attitude surveys across the EU to see how much they value the UK compared to many EU countries. Italy, Poland, Hungary, Austria etc are hardly trending in the direction you may desire. > whose grandfather fought for the freedoms in WWII alongside British pilots The British have a huge amount of respect and gratitude for the Polish pilots and honour them annually.
- ben_w 8y ago
  > The British have a huge amount of respect and gratitude for the Polish pilots and honour them annually. Not seen much sign of the Poles being acknowledged as Polish when being honoured as Spitfire pilots — heck, I didn’t even know many of the pilots were Polish until recently, and I’ve been living in the UK for my whole life… well, except for six months or so of post-Brexit looking for somewhere else before coming back because of family medical issues.
- tormeh 8y ago
  There's net migration into Poland. Lots of poles are leaving for Western Europe, but even more Romanians etc. are going to Poland. Poland has been booming for quite some time. It's four times richer than it was before it joined the EU if memory serves. That image of Poland as an unattractive place everyone wants to get away from is not really true anymore.
  - alva 8y ago
    > There's net migration into Poland Wrong. Poland -0.4 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2017 est.) https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pl.html https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/... > That image of Poland as an unattractive place everyone wants to get away from is not really true anymore. I agree, Poland has made huge improvements and is becoming more attractive.
Milner08 8y ago
What are you talking about? WW2 was not about freedom of movement. The Schengen zone did not come about until way later. And as you your self said they never adopted it. Your statement doesn't make much sense. Sure Brexit sucks but we still don't really know what Brexit means. We can make guesses but until its all ironed out there are so many possibilities for the future of the UK-EU relationship. Yes they want you to apply for a visa, its still a great place to live and a good market to enter.
nd308 8y ago
That's a stupid comment, even if you do agree with brexit. None of that has any bearing on what ultimately lead to the result. Further, I suggest you read into the history of the eu. It's present shape only came into being and into name wirh the Maastricht treaty of 1992.

alva 8y ago

> Good luck with that. Since the Brexit vote net-migration for the UK is over half a million people, your native Poland is still suffering huge negative net-migration. "Despite Brexit" the UK attracts top talent from across the EU due to well paid jobs, culture and a business friendly environment. Look at immigrant attitude surveys across the EU to see how much they value the UK compared to many EU countries. Italy, Poland, Hungary, Austria etc are hardly trending in the direction you may desire. > whose grandfather fought for the freedoms in WWII alongside British pilots The British have a huge amount of respect and gratitude for the Polish pilots and honour them annually.

ben_w 8y ago
> The British have a huge amount of respect and gratitude for the Polish pilots and honour them annually. Not seen much sign of the Poles being acknowledged as Polish when being honoured as Spitfire pilots — heck, I didn’t even know many of the pilots were Polish until recently, and I’ve been living in the UK for my whole life… well, except for six months or so of post-Brexit looking for somewhere else before coming back because of family medical issues.
tormeh 8y ago
There's net migration into Poland. Lots of poles are leaving for Western Europe, but even more Romanians etc. are going to Poland. Poland has been booming for quite some time. It's four times richer than it was before it joined the EU if memory serves. That image of Poland as an unattractive place everyone wants to get away from is not really true anymore.
- alva 8y ago
  > There's net migration into Poland Wrong. Poland -0.4 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2017 est.) https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pl.html https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/... > That image of Poland as an unattractive place everyone wants to get away from is not really true anymore. I agree, Poland has made huge improvements and is becoming more attractive.

Milner08 8y ago

What are you talking about? WW2 was not about freedom of movement. The Schengen zone did not come about until way later. And as you your self said they never adopted it. Your statement doesn't make much sense. Sure Brexit sucks but we still don't really know what Brexit means. We can make guesses but until its all ironed out there are so many possibilities for the future of the UK-EU relationship. Yes they want you to apply for a visa, its still a great place to live and a good market to enter.

nd308 8y ago

That's a stupid comment, even if you do agree with brexit. None of that has any bearing on what ultimately lead to the result. Further, I suggest you read into the history of the eu. It's present shape only came into being and into name wirh the Maastricht treaty of 1992.