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Hi there, original tweeter here. Just to clarify: no one said when this work would land, simply that we are working on it! Sorry to disappoint XD, but I guess b

Hi there, original tweeter here. Just to clarify: no one said when this work would land, simply that we are working on it! Sorry to disappoint XD, but I guess blame the OP.

mhoad 8y ago
Happy to take the blame :) It was too interesting a tidbit not to share though.
- thelarkinn 8y ago
  No harm done <3
- petee 8y ago
  not your blame to take, perhaps its the guy who is vaguely tweeting without official capacity to do so...
wiz21c 8y ago
when you say rewritten in JavaScript, you mean acutally rewritten or just cross compiled to Javascript ? Or a bit of both ?
- deleted 8y ago
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golergka 8y ago
Why not Typescript, btw?
- nameiscubanpete 8y ago
  I'd almost guarantee that it's Typescript. But being a superset of Javascript, it's still correct to call it Javascript.
  - jorams 8y ago
    It's really not. YAML is a superset of JSON, but you wouldn't call a YAML document a JSON document. The set of all colors is a superset of the set containing only orange, but calling every color orange makes no sense.
    - pnloyd 8y ago
      I don't think it's exactly right to call it a superset either.. It adds types and constraints that have no effect on the resulting transpiled code besides an insurance that said type constraints are being met. To better illustrate what I mean, in the start of a Unix script you sometimes have them augmented with #!interpreter. But this extra contextual information is not a superset of the scripting language itself. Likewise Typescript is also an augmentation that lives within the code that provides contextual information to the Typescript transpiler itself, but does not necessarily effect the actuall produced JavaScript.
      - nameiscubanpete 8y ago
        I see your point and not necessarily disagreeing, but noting the creators of typescript refer to it as a superset.
    - kumarharsh 8y ago
      All colours don't boil down to "orange" in Human eyes, so calling all colours orange really would be pointless. Typescript does compile down to JS, without which it can't even run. So yeah, when you're talking about the runtime or performance, Typescript === Javascript.
      - golergka 8y ago
        > Typescript does compile down to JS, without which it can't even run. So yeah, when you're talking about the runtime or performance, Typescript === Javascript. By this kind of logic, C++ === machine code. It compiles down to it, right?
    - 8y ago
polskibus 8y ago
Does that mean full, desktop version of Office 365 or only the web browser versions of Excel, etc?
dentemple 8y ago
Does this mean that VBA will finally die? Please tell me that VBA will finally die.
- leeter 8y ago
  As much as I can imagine MS would love to kill VBA it would be a major loss of business if they did. Oil and Gas lives in the stuff and would probably even sue MS if VBA died. That said could it be getting a much needed fixup... probably. I suspect the same is true of COM plugins.
  - nwsm 8y ago
    I'm in Oil and Gas app dev, we are .net with no VBA. I guess I'm lucky.
    - sten 8y ago
      Dev in finance here, VBA gets used more than I care to think about.
      - artmageddon 8y ago
        My last job in finance(still am in finance fwiw) used much more VBA to price out billion-dollar swaps and swaptions than I was comfortable admitting to...
    - leeter 8y ago
      I dealt with it peripherally in my last job. Apparently the only reason Office has a 64bit version at all is Oil and Gas was causing Excel to run out of ram and demanded it. We were developing a COM addin, and we had clients complain that we broke some of their VBA they were using (turned out it was another VBA addin they were using that wasn't doing proper error handling). But it was definitely common for us to see clients that were deep into VBA.
    - privacypoller 8y ago
      Don't count yourself so sure - A lot of shadow IT gets done by that excel expert in finance or the engineer who took a programming elective. If anyone ever gave them a database login password, odds are they're pulling into excel or access and writing VBA!
combatentropy 8y ago
> blame the OP What did he write that you did not?

Hi there, original tweeter here. Just to clarify: no one said when this work would land, simply that we are working on it! Sorry to disappoint XD, but I guess blame the OP.

mhoad 8y ago

Happy to take the blame :) It was too interesting a tidbit not to share though.

thelarkinn 8y ago
No harm done <3
petee 8y ago
not your blame to take, perhaps its the guy who is vaguely tweeting without official capacity to do so...

wiz21c 8y ago

when you say rewritten in JavaScript, you mean acutally rewritten or just cross compiled to Javascript ? Or a bit of both ?

deleted 8y ago
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golergka 8y ago

Why not Typescript, btw?

nameiscubanpete 8y ago
I'd almost guarantee that it's Typescript. But being a superset of Javascript, it's still correct to call it Javascript.
- jorams 8y ago
  It's really not. YAML is a superset of JSON, but you wouldn't call a YAML document a JSON document. The set of all colors is a superset of the set containing only orange, but calling every color orange makes no sense.
  - pnloyd 8y ago
    I don't think it's exactly right to call it a superset either.. It adds types and constraints that have no effect on the resulting transpiled code besides an insurance that said type constraints are being met. To better illustrate what I mean, in the start of a Unix script you sometimes have them augmented with #!interpreter. But this extra contextual information is not a superset of the scripting language itself. Likewise Typescript is also an augmentation that lives within the code that provides contextual information to the Typescript transpiler itself, but does not necessarily effect the actuall produced JavaScript.
    - nameiscubanpete 8y ago
      I see your point and not necessarily disagreeing, but noting the creators of typescript refer to it as a superset.
  - kumarharsh 8y ago
    All colours don't boil down to "orange" in Human eyes, so calling all colours orange really would be pointless. Typescript does compile down to JS, without which it can't even run. So yeah, when you're talking about the runtime or performance, Typescript === Javascript.
    - golergka 8y ago
      > Typescript does compile down to JS, without which it can't even run. So yeah, when you're talking about the runtime or performance, Typescript === Javascript. By this kind of logic, C++ === machine code. It compiles down to it, right?
  - 8y ago

polskibus 8y ago

Does that mean full, desktop version of Office 365 or only the web browser versions of Excel, etc?

dentemple 8y ago

Does this mean that VBA will finally die? Please tell me that VBA will finally die.

leeter 8y ago
As much as I can imagine MS would love to kill VBA it would be a major loss of business if they did. Oil and Gas lives in the stuff and would probably even sue MS if VBA died. That said could it be getting a much needed fixup... probably. I suspect the same is true of COM plugins.
- nwsm 8y ago
  I'm in Oil and Gas app dev, we are .net with no VBA. I guess I'm lucky.
  - sten 8y ago
    Dev in finance here, VBA gets used more than I care to think about.
    - artmageddon 8y ago
      My last job in finance(still am in finance fwiw) used much more VBA to price out billion-dollar swaps and swaptions than I was comfortable admitting to...
  - leeter 8y ago
    I dealt with it peripherally in my last job. Apparently the only reason Office has a 64bit version at all is Oil and Gas was causing Excel to run out of ram and demanded it. We were developing a COM addin, and we had clients complain that we broke some of their VBA they were using (turned out it was another VBA addin they were using that wasn't doing proper error handling). But it was definitely common for us to see clients that were deep into VBA.
  - privacypoller 8y ago
    Don't count yourself so sure - A lot of shadow IT gets done by that excel expert in finance or the engineer who took a programming elective. If anyone ever gave them a database login password, odds are they're pulling into excel or access and writing VBA!

combatentropy 8y ago

> blame the OP What did he write that you did not?