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Or most people don’t require more than what an iPad can provide. It’s a mass market device and that’s fine. As you say, one would already know if they need a la

Or most people don’t require more than what an iPad can provide. It’s a mass market device and that’s fine. As you say, one would already know if they need a laptop over an iPad.

dschuetz 8y ago
Exactly the point why I've been asking myself: why oh why does Apple say "That huge thing, like, totally replaces the laptop!" Apple clearly has some outlandish understanding of what a computer is, no surprise. But let's stay honest, and don't put up sales pitches based on flat out lies.
- abritinthebay 8y ago
  The reason they say that is, for the target market that they are aiming that message to, it can replace a laptop. It’s well aimed marketing.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Because a large set of the population only needs access to the Web, email and a few apps, nothing more.
- dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
  It's a mixture of clever marketing and wishful thinking (the "tablet era" hasn't arrived after all, everybody is using notebooks for work). However, as others said, some people actually use iPads only. A good example is my mother. She was using it for a few months, but then the memory got filled up with photos and she asked for advice. I told her to back up the device using a computer. "I don't have one", she said. Then the battery started to degenerate and so on. It's clear to me you can use these tablets as simplified notebooks/PCs, but sooner rather than later you reach their limits, and at that point thing can get costly. I can get a 2TB HDD for my Mac Pro for 50€, good luck with that kind of storage on any kind of iPad.
  - dschuetz 8y ago
    You see, your mom doesn't compile software with basic toolchains that have existed since the beginning of the computer era. I'm OK with the fact that your mom, or anybody else's mom, or spouse, or sister uses an iPad now, instead of a fully featured computer. It's totally fine. They get everything they've ever needed, and more. But let's make it perfectly clear that an iPad cannot ever replace a laptop as a computer. Since most people don't see the difference, we need to point out that there this crucial fact. I've been trying to switch (I also own an ipad pro) and it just doens't work. Either you need a second computer nearby, or a solid internet connection and a server with the toolchains of your choice. Microsofts's Surface actually replaces a laptop without the need to point that out, where the iPad is falsely advertised as a replacement. Sorry, I cannot accept false advertising, nor is clever marketing an excuse. They need to point out facts instead of wishful thinking. I am using Apple products for specific purposes, but also other products of other vendors. Because all of them suck in very specific ways. Let's not pretend that Apple somehow is superior in marketing that it tries to sell a consumer product as a universal computer. Nope, Nuh-uh. Not buying it.
    - dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
      I agree with your sentiment but ultimately what I or you think is insignificant, what matters is that people buy the iPad Pro, try to switch as advertised, discover the shortcomings of the device and switch back. If it happened to my mother, it will definitely happen to other users who need much more than Facetime/Safari/Photos/Skype/Netflix.
      - abritinthebay 8y ago
        Sure, but there are less of those cases than the other way around.

Or most people don’t require more than what an iPad can provide. It’s a mass market device and that’s fine. As you say, one would already know if they need a laptop over an iPad.

dschuetz 8y ago

Exactly the point why I've been asking myself: why oh why does Apple say "That huge thing, like, totally replaces the laptop!" Apple clearly has some outlandish understanding of what a computer is, no surprise. But let's stay honest, and don't put up sales pitches based on flat out lies.

abritinthebay 8y ago
The reason they say that is, for the target market that they are aiming that message to, it can replace a laptop. It’s well aimed marketing.
pjmlp 8y ago
Because a large set of the population only needs access to the Web, email and a few apps, nothing more.
dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
It's a mixture of clever marketing and wishful thinking (the "tablet era" hasn't arrived after all, everybody is using notebooks for work). However, as others said, some people actually use iPads only. A good example is my mother. She was using it for a few months, but then the memory got filled up with photos and she asked for advice. I told her to back up the device using a computer. "I don't have one", she said. Then the battery started to degenerate and so on. It's clear to me you can use these tablets as simplified notebooks/PCs, but sooner rather than later you reach their limits, and at that point thing can get costly. I can get a 2TB HDD for my Mac Pro for 50€, good luck with that kind of storage on any kind of iPad.
- dschuetz 8y ago
  You see, your mom doesn't compile software with basic toolchains that have existed since the beginning of the computer era. I'm OK with the fact that your mom, or anybody else's mom, or spouse, or sister uses an iPad now, instead of a fully featured computer. It's totally fine. They get everything they've ever needed, and more. But let's make it perfectly clear that an iPad cannot ever replace a laptop as a computer. Since most people don't see the difference, we need to point out that there this crucial fact. I've been trying to switch (I also own an ipad pro) and it just doens't work. Either you need a second computer nearby, or a solid internet connection and a server with the toolchains of your choice. Microsofts's Surface actually replaces a laptop without the need to point that out, where the iPad is falsely advertised as a replacement. Sorry, I cannot accept false advertising, nor is clever marketing an excuse. They need to point out facts instead of wishful thinking. I am using Apple products for specific purposes, but also other products of other vendors. Because all of them suck in very specific ways. Let's not pretend that Apple somehow is superior in marketing that it tries to sell a consumer product as a universal computer. Nope, Nuh-uh. Not buying it.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
    I agree with your sentiment but ultimately what I or you think is insignificant, what matters is that people buy the iPad Pro, try to switch as advertised, discover the shortcomings of the device and switch back. If it happened to my mother, it will definitely happen to other users who need much more than Facetime/Safari/Photos/Skype/Netflix.
    - abritinthebay 8y ago
      Sure, but there are less of those cases than the other way around.