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It's another example of Daniel Micay (strcat) contributing technically to something, having a falling out with other folks involved with it, then quitting in a

It's another example of Daniel Micay (strcat) contributing technically to something, having a falling out with other folks involved with it, then quitting in a huff.

staticassertion 8y ago
I think that's a really overly simplistic view of the Rust situation and an unnecessary comment on the current situation. Daniel did not 'quit in a huff' or even quit at all. This belittles his contributions and the situation he's been put in.
- surrealize 8y ago
  I saw how badly he treated people in the rust community, so I have zero doubt that his problems dealing with people played a role in the current situation. Didn't intend to belittle his contributions though; he contributed significantly to rust and (as I understand it) did ~everything technically on CopperheadOS.
  - axlprose 8y ago
    This is an extremely disingenuous interpretation of events, and seems to be given for no other purpose than to shame the clear victim of an abusive business partner. This has nothing to do with how he worked with rust developers, and even Graydon made it clear in that thread that strcat was always justified in his interactions with them. It is extremely dishonest to spin this around and use it to suggest such a ridiculous level of dishonesty.
    - tomjakubowski 8y ago
      > This has nothing to do with how he worked with rust developers, and even Graydon made it clear in that thread that strcat was always justified in his interactions with them. No, Graydon really said nothing of the sort. https://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html#co4uurq https://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html#co... "[strcat] is an outstanding technical voice, everyone knows that. He is also an uncompromising technical voice who quickly becomes defensive, critical, sarcastic, belittling, insulting and accusatory when his (often correct) views are not acted-upon by others quickly enough or to his satisfaction. He needs to work on his communication style. He's stepped way over the line of the CoC repeatedly, and if I were still in a leadership role, I probably would have had to ask him to leave by now. It pains me to say that."
      - axlprose 8y ago
        What you just quoted literally shows Graydon saying that strcat's views were often correct. I wasn't commenting on strcat's tone/delivery because that's a separate issue, I was saying that it shows nothing about dishonesty, and only backs up the notion that he's honest (if a bit emotional). Somebody having less than perfect communication skills is no reason to be wildly speculating and throwing them under the bus when they're the victims of something much worse.

It's another example of Daniel Micay (strcat) contributing technically to something, having a falling out with other folks involved with it, then quitting in a huff.

staticassertion 8y ago

I think that's a really overly simplistic view of the Rust situation and an unnecessary comment on the current situation. Daniel did not 'quit in a huff' or even quit at all. This belittles his contributions and the situation he's been put in.

surrealize 8y ago
I saw how badly he treated people in the rust community, so I have zero doubt that his problems dealing with people played a role in the current situation. Didn't intend to belittle his contributions though; he contributed significantly to rust and (as I understand it) did ~everything technically on CopperheadOS.
- axlprose 8y ago
  This is an extremely disingenuous interpretation of events, and seems to be given for no other purpose than to shame the clear victim of an abusive business partner. This has nothing to do with how he worked with rust developers, and even Graydon made it clear in that thread that strcat was always justified in his interactions with them. It is extremely dishonest to spin this around and use it to suggest such a ridiculous level of dishonesty.
  - tomjakubowski 8y ago
    > This has nothing to do with how he worked with rust developers, and even Graydon made it clear in that thread that strcat was always justified in his interactions with them. No, Graydon really said nothing of the sort. https://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html#co4uurq https://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html#co... "[strcat] is an outstanding technical voice, everyone knows that. He is also an uncompromising technical voice who quickly becomes defensive, critical, sarcastic, belittling, insulting and accusatory when his (often correct) views are not acted-upon by others quickly enough or to his satisfaction. He needs to work on his communication style. He's stepped way over the line of the CoC repeatedly, and if I were still in a leadership role, I probably would have had to ask him to leave by now. It pains me to say that."
    - axlprose 8y ago
      What you just quoted literally shows Graydon saying that strcat's views were often correct. I wasn't commenting on strcat's tone/delivery because that's a separate issue, I was saying that it shows nothing about dishonesty, and only backs up the notion that he's honest (if a bit emotional). Somebody having less than perfect communication skills is no reason to be wildly speculating and throwing them under the bus when they're the victims of something much worse.